# God, do I despise Florida State University. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 4, 2006, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-do-i-despise-florida-state-university/338345 "2006-01-04T04:25:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![joemama24\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@joemama24\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joemama24_98)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-do-i-despise-florida-state-university/338345/41 "2006-01-04T19:20:53Z")
> [@AlbertRose](#): > > Florida Gator here. (B.S. Mathematics 1994) > > The chant is even more annoying when FSU is beating your team. I guess that’s the point, but it gets overplayed to the point of poor sportsmanship (again, probably the point). It is liberating to return the chant when your team is beating FSU (for example, by a score of 34-7). It is also extremely satifsying to chant “Fuuuuuuck the Seminoles” over and over again while the chant plays. > > Having said that, I implore all of us to keep the poor FSU fans in our prayers. I usually ask God to please forgive them for being 'Noles. Mercy is the mark of a great man. Gator here, too. I laughed out loud when I read your post, as I was thinking the EXACT same thing. (Although, you forgot to mention that the middle-finger must be extended for the accompanying tomahawk chop 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-do-i-despise-florida-state-university/338345/42 "2006-01-04T19:38:11Z")
> [@Try As I Might...](#): > > It could be worse, FSU could play OU. > > “War chant” v. “Boomer Sooners” all game loooooong… Hey! Make it a trifecta, round-robin tournament with Michigan and you could form yourself a new circle of hell. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-do-i-despise-florida-state-university/338345/43 "2006-01-04T20:07:03Z")
> [@McNew](#): > > that Gary Glitter “Hey!” anthem Rock and Roll Part 2. > [@David Simmons](#): > > I don’t believe that the thugs first begin to commit crimes such as rape, assault, robbery (we’re not talking about a joint here and there) when they get to college. I don’t think so, either. See: > [@fetus](#): > > “Successful” criminals being by their nature good at hiding their true selves > [@David Simmons](#): > > How difficult is it really to learn about the general character and behavior of someone whose athletic accomplishments the coach knows in equisite detail? Do you really think coaches aren’t pressured by those above them to pay a lot of attention to athletic ability and turn a blind eye to the personal attributes of the prospective attributes? I would doubt this starts with coaches. Anyway, any hack with a local newspaper subscription and (optionally) the time and means to attend high school football games can become familiar in exquisite detail with the local prospects’ athletic accomplishments. I assure you, while Reggie Bush (as an example of top high school talent, not as an example of a criminal) went to high school here, San Diegans would’ve had to _try_ to not become familiar with his athletic accomplishments. > [@David Simmons](#): > > The “Who me? How could I possibly have known that?” line is just so much baloney. I’m not saying it’s impossible to gauge the character of any high school football player. I’m saying that if the nation’s top running back plays high school football somewhere in (say) Arizona, and the coaches of the U. Arizona and Arizona St. both look into him, then one of the two drops it because he has a bad feeling about the kid’s morals and the other school picks him up–you don’t think there could possibly be ramifications for the careers of both coaches? > [@Weirddave](#): > > Doors, you’re a hypocrite. The two examples are a world apart. How can Terrible Towels be like nails on a chalkboard in the first place? Do you cringe when you _see_ nails on a chalkboard, or when you _hear_ them? While a visual phenomenon like the waving of the towels may be irritating to some, it doesn’t assault your eardrums. > [@Weirddave](#): > > They are both rituals designed to cheer on your team. Criticizing one while applauding the other is hypocritical. Because someone likes or even practices one football ritual, they’re supposed to like all the others too? What if one of the football rituals involves mocking your team? Are you bound by the laws of morality to refrain from criticizing it? What if it’s utterly tasteless? Are you not allowed to Pit it? > [@joemama24\_98](#): > > (Although, you forgot to mention that the middle-finger must be extended for the accompanying tomahawk chop) After (actually, while) our Padres smoked the Braves in the 1998 NLCS, palm-tree-shaped tomahawks went for sale at Qualcomm Stadium and we had a lot of fun with those for a while. I lost mine after a couple of years. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-do-i-despise-florida-state-university/338345/44 "2006-01-04T20:37:49Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > There’s no difference except that one is visual and one is aural. They are both rituals designed to cheer on your team. Criticizing one while applauding the other is hypocritical. He didn’t say that he hated all types of ritual cheers. He said that he hated that one and gave good reasons for it. Am I hypocritical because I don’t like broccoli but I do like asparagus? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-do-i-despise-florida-state-university/338345/45 "2006-01-04T21:12:37Z")
I watched the game last night too, and I heard the chants the whole game, and they didn’t bother me a bit. Seeing a stadium full of Stiller fans waving their hankeys in the air is something I find very annoying ( And we’ve gotten a lot of them bastards out of the Purple Palace lately Crotalus, it’s not nearly as bad as it used to be. Plenty showed up this year though and got to watch the black and gold lose to a Ravens team that quite frankly, sucked. That was fun.). Different strokes for different folks and all that, but at heart they are the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-do-i-despise-florida-state-university/338345/46 "2006-01-04T22:06:54Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I wish they would find a better cheer, the chant is irritating and a bit demeaning to our Native Americans. Your last argument, in this case, holds no water. The Seminole Nation, located in Florida, is not only not demeaned (even a bit) by the FSU mascot and chant, they are proud of and fully support it. When the NCAA came out with its “no Native American mascot/logos” directive it was the Seminole Nation that rallied and worked closely with FSU to get an exemption. If the chant irritates you, so be it, but don’t theow out the “demeaning” card, 'cause its been trumped. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-do-i-despise-florida-state-university/338345.md?page=2)