# God Hates Fags - the song **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512 "2007-01-26T02:15:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/21 "2007-01-26T12:24:56Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] I don’t hate fags but I like it. I think he is trying to beat off his inner fag through musical cleansing. It starts off slow and a little sickly sweet in the beginning but it eventually gets down to business: “God hates fagggs, If you are a fag, he hates you tooooo!” That singing seems to counterproductive in a way though. It seems to encourage a lot more fags to crowd around him, hold hands, and whatever else they do for support. I doubt its much different to really be a fag most of the time. [/QUOTE] Heh-heh…you said _beat off_…heh-heh. ---
**Author:** ![Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tyrrell_mcallister/32/16772_2.png) [@Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyrrell_McAllister)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/22 "2007-01-26T13:35:01Z")
[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose] It is, unfortunately, neither a satire nor a parody nor a hoax. [/QUOTE] No, this is definitely satire. As **Lemur866** pointed out, he thanks Andrew Sullivan for “getting behind” him (wink, wink) in his video [here](http://lovegodsway.org/Blog/AmazingDay). Andrew Sullivan is a very open _non_-reformed homosexual. Moreover, Sullivan makes it clear that he [thinks the song is satire](http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2007/01/spoiler.html). Donnie Davies would not be praising Sullivan if Davies didn’t want his work to be perceived as satire. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/23 "2007-01-26T13:43:51Z")
> [@](#): > > While I’m not advocating jailing all Homosexuals, I do think it would benefit them greatly. It would be for their own good. Yeah, jail is a great place to go to try to rid yourself of homosexual behavior. My vote is this guy is a satirist. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/24 "2007-01-26T14:45:52Z")
Leo: We’ll never find the perfect script! Max: Keep looking, I tell you. We’ll … Leo: We’ll what? Max: I’ve found it. By god, I’ve found it! Leo: Found it? _:: peers over Max’s shoulder ::_ “Springtime for Phelps”? Max: It’s perfect, I tell you! ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/25 "2007-01-26T16:15:44Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Missed the edit window, but had to add [this link](http://lovegodsway.org/GayBands) of Gay Bands, or Bands to Watch Out For. My personal favorite – **Ted Nugent (loincloth)** People, you can’t make this shit up. [/QUOTE] Oh, and Elton John is listed twice. The second time he is listed as “Elton John(really gay)”. Comedy gold. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/26 "2007-01-26T16:24:52Z")
[QUOTE=Tyrrell McAllister] he thanks Andrew Sullivan for “getting behind” him [/quote] Just because Andrew Sullivan wants to think it’s satire doesn’t make it so. You’re hearing a wink-wink, and I’m hearing a take on “Get thee behind me, Satan”, from Matthew 16:23: > [@](#): > > _Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”_ As you said yourself, Andrew Sullivan is a very open non-reformed homosexual; he symbolizes open homosexuality. So, in other words, he’s saying, “I’ve put Andrew Sullivan, i.e. homosexuality, behind me, because it is evil, like Satan, and I am glad that he, i.e. homosexuality, responded to my Christlike rebuke.” So he isn’t praising Andrew Sullivan as such, he’s just congratulating himself obliquely on having been able to put his homosexuality “behind” him. As someone already said, you can’t make this shit up. And both websites IMO reek of gen-u-wine semi-literate clueless religious fanaticism. I’ve seen spoof religious websites before, like Landover Baptist, and they are much more polished and focused. And the satire is always quite pointed, and abundantly clear. But the inane, disconnected ramblings here sound to me like the Real Thing. Somebody got himself a couple of domain names and a minicam, and decided to set up shop and preach the Gospel According To Him. It’s what the Internet does best–enables all the Little People to make their tinfoilhatted voices heard–but sometimes the results are less than salubrious. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/27 "2007-01-26T16:44:11Z")
[QUOTE=don’t ask] Is Donnie actor [Todd Quillen](http://www.queerty.com/queer/scandal/donnie-davies-revealed-20070125.php). Seems like a joke to me. Even the Love God’s Way site has a couple of laughs. [/QUOTE] On that site, the logo is the word QWEERTY spelled out in computer keyboard keys. But why do the keys have Braille dots on them? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/28 "2007-01-26T16:45:45Z")
[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose] Just because Andrew Sullivan wants to think it’s satire doesn’t make it so. You’re hearing a wink-wink, and I’m hearing a take on “Get thee behind me, Satan”, from Matthew 16:23: As you said yourself, Andrew Sullivan is a very open non-reformed homosexual; he symbolizes open homosexuality. So, in other words, he’s saying, “I’ve put Andrew Sullivan, i.e. homosexuality, behind me, because it is evil, like Satan, and I am glad that he, i.e. homosexuality, responded to my Christlike rebuke.” So he isn’t praising Andrew Sullivan as such, he’s just congratulating himself obliquely on having been able to put his homosexuality “behind” him. [/quote] I know you’re a sheltered Christian lady, but surely you understand why he wants Andrew behind him. There is no back door to heaven. > [@](#): > > As someone already said, you can’t make this shit up. Actually, you can. Somebody got himself a couple of domain names and a minicam and decided to set up a decidedly tongue-in-cheek…I mean…uh… ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/29 "2007-01-26T17:01:06Z")
[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose] You’re hearing a wink-wink, and I’m hearing a take on “Get thee behind me, Satan”, from Matthew 16:23: As you said yourself, Andrew Sullivan is a very open non-reformed homosexual; he symbolizes open homosexuality. So, in other words, he’s saying, “I’ve put Andrew Sullivan, i.e. homosexuality, behind me, because it is evil, like Satan, and I am glad that he, i.e. homosexuality, responded to my Christlike rebuke.” So he isn’t praising Andrew Sullivan as such, he’s just congratulating himself obliquely on having been able to put his homosexuality “behind” him. [/QUOTE] Now I’m leaning toward satire/hoax. [Here](http://www.lovegodsway.org/Blog/AmazingDay) is the video where he thanks Sullivan. He is definitely \*not \*saying that he puts Sullivan behind him; he calls him a brilliant blogger and thanks him for his help. I think \*\*don’t ask \*\*is on to something. Looks like Todd Quillen to me. Their singing voices are similar as well. Plus, Cindy Lauper is one of the “safe bands.” ---
**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/30 "2007-01-26T17:01:38Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Missed the edit window, but had to add [this link](http://lovegodsway.org/GayBands) of Gay Bands, or Bands to Watch Out For. My personal favorite – **Ted Nugent (loincloth)** People, you can’t make this shit up. [/QUOTE] He lists Cyndi Lauper as being a safe band/artist? Someone has missed a She-Bop or two. I think his True Colors are definitely shining through… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/31 "2007-01-26T17:03:53Z")
[QUOTE=supervenusfreak] He lists Cyndi Lauper as being a safe band/artist? Someone has missed a She-Bop or two. I think his True Colors are definitely shining through… 😃 [/QUOTE] Hey, girls just wanna have fun, right? ---
**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/32 "2007-01-26T17:08:56Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Now I’m leaning toward satire/hoax. [Here](http://www.lovegodsway.org/Blog/AmazingDay) is the video where he thanks Sullivan. He is definitely \*not \*saying that he puts Sullivan behind him; he calls him a brilliant blogger and thanks him for his help. I think \*\*don’t ask \*\*is on to something. Looks like Todd Quillen to me. Their singing voices are similar as well. Plus, Cindy Lauper is one of the “safe bands.” [/QUOTE] He does thank Andrew Sullivan “for getting behind him”, then he briefly glances down, like he is trying not to laugh. I have to say that after seeing this video I feel so very…extraordinary! ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/33 "2007-01-26T17:13:30Z")
Or how about: > [@lovegodsway.org/GayBands](#): > > Morrissey(?questionable?) You know, now that I think about it, I’ve always thought there’s been something a bit “off” about Morrissey…but I haven’t been able to put my finger on it… ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/34 "2007-01-26T17:16:29Z")
[QUOTE=Lemur866] Or how about: You know, now that I think about it, I’ve always thought there’s been something a bit “off” about Morrissey…but I haven’t been able to put my finger on it… [/QUOTE] Not that he’d let you. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/35 "2007-01-26T17:20:38Z")
**That’s not a finger!** ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/36 "2007-01-26T19:29:59Z")
I like that the Dresden Dolls wound up on the “safe bands” list and Frank Sinatra wound up on the Gay bands list. ---
**Author:** ![Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tyrrell_mcallister/32/16772_2.png) [@Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyrrell_McAllister)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/37 "2007-01-26T19:53:36Z")
[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose] Just because Andrew Sullivan wants to think it’s satire doesn’t make it so. You’re hearing a wink-wink, and I’m hearing a take on “Get thee behind me, Satan”, from Matthew 16:23: As you said yourself, Andrew Sullivan is a very open non-reformed homosexual; he symbolizes open homosexuality. So, in other words, he’s saying, “I’ve put Andrew Sullivan, i.e. homosexuality, behind me, because it is evil, like Satan, and I am glad that he, i.e. homosexuality, responded to my Christlike rebuke.” So he isn’t praising Andrew Sullivan as such, he’s just congratulating himself obliquely on having been able to put his homosexuality “behind” him. [/quote] Have you watched the video in question? This is my transcription of the portion where he mentions Sullivan: > [@Donnie Davies](#): > > [After giving a shout-out to “Tiana on YouTube” and “Madeleine on MySpace”] I also got to give a special thanks to Andrew Sullivan, the world famous blogger from Time Magazine—obviously a great Christian man helping us forge our message. Andrew took time to condemn YouTube for taking down our video and taking away our freedom of speech. Thank you so much, Andrew Sullivan, for getting behind me. Ostensibly, he is praising Sullivan. The look on his face is completely sincere. Yet, no matter whether you are I am right, he is acting. If I am right, he is pretending to be an anti-homosexual bigot who is so ignorant that he doesn’t realize that he is praising someone who would (were Davies being sincere) despise him. If you are right, Davies is still acting, because he is pretending to praise Sullivan as a “great Christian man” when in fact Davies thinks Sullivan is a fag whom God hates. So, either way, he is doing some kind of sarcastic mockery. Even under your hypothesis, there is a subtle satirical element to what he is saying. The problem with your hypothesis, though, is that you would have him be a “gen-u-wine semi-literate clueless religious fanatic.” That just doesn’t seems consistent with the sort of ironic attitude required to speak the ostensibly sincere praise above while in fact believing that the object of his praise is evil. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/38 "2007-01-26T19:57:37Z")
Bands to watch out for: The Spores (endorse suicide) Scissor Sisters Rufus Wainwright Merzbau Ravi Shankar Wilco Bjork Tech N9ne Ghostface Killah Bobby Conn Morton Subotnik Cole Porter The String Cheese Incident Eagles of Death Metal Polyphonic Spree The Faint Interpol Tegan and Sara Erasure Le Tigre The Gossip The Magnetic Fields The Doors Phish Queen The Strokes Sufjan Stevens Morrissey(?questionable?) The Pet Shop Boys Metallica Judas Priest The Village People The Secret Handshake The Rolling Stones David Bowie Frankie Goes to Hollywood Man or Astroman Richard Cheese Jay-Z Depeche Mode Kansas Ani DiFranco Fischerspooner John Mayer Angel Eyes The Indigo Girls Velvet Underground Madonna Elton John Barry Manilow Indigo Girls Melissa Etheridge Eminmen Nirvana Boy George\* The Killers Lou Reed Lil’ Wayne Motorhead Jill Sobule Wilson Phillips DMX Lisa Loeb Ted Nugent (loincloth) Dogstar Thirty Seconds to Mars Lil’ Kim kd lang Frank Sinatra Hinder Nickleback Justus Kohncke Bob Mould Clay Aiken Arcade Fire Bright Eyes Corinne Bailey Rae Audioslave Red Hot Chili Peppers Panic at the Disco Elton John(really gay) I wonder how he feels about cast recordings? ---
**Author:** ![Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tyrrell_mcallister/32/16772_2.png) [@Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyrrell_McAllister)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/39 "2007-01-26T20:03:27Z")
Sorry **DDG**. I just read your post more closely, and I see that you think Davies is sincerely praising Andrew for putting homosexuality behind him. I don’t see how that could be, though, because Sullivan makes it clear that the music video is either sublime satire or horrifying bigotry when he links to it. There is just no way Davies could have thought that Sullivan was renouncing homosexuality. Besides, Davies doesn’t even mention Sullivan’s homosexuality in his remarks. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512/40 "2007-01-26T20:08:27Z")
I wasn’t aware Cole Porter ever led a band. Have some lost recordings come to light? **-BoD** , watching out for them [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-hates-fags-the-song/389512.md?page=3)