# God help you America....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 11, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862 "2017-01-11T08:06:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/1 "2017-01-11T08:06:15Z")

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And this coming from an Australian atheist no less!

Fucken hell…I hope you guys can survive the next four years, and come out the other end not totally broken.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/2 "2017-01-11T09:05:00Z")

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Bah. We’ll be fine. It’ll be a four year long episode of _Idiocracy_, but we’ll dig out of it. Personally, I think I’m going to produce a gilt-edge bound copy of every one of Trump’s 3am tweets to keep myself entertained while I’m on the crapper.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/3 "2017-01-11T09:16:00Z")

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Y’all seem to be assuming Trump will last four years. I foresee he either resigns from office or gets impeached.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/4 "2017-01-11T09:26:28Z")

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I’m on board with the notion, but regardless, it’ll still be his administration only with Pence steering us toward a Gay-Free America.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/5 "2017-01-11T09:30:42Z")

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Between Trump and the Republicans, even in a best case scenario they’ll do damage that’ll take decades to undo. And quite a bit of damage that will be unfixable.

And I feel it’s more likely that we’ll end up with an essentially permanent one party state, and a plutocratic, racist theocracy.

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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/6 "2017-01-11T10:58:27Z")

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The people of a huge part of our country are broken. Trump is a symptom of how broken these people are. So It’s probably 8 years.

On the bright side a huge number of us live in parts of the country that are relatively healthy. For example, the governor of my state, New York, just laid out an agenda that any liberal would love and this is on top of the accomplishments already achieved.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/7 "2017-01-11T11:10:48Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> For example, the governor of my state, New York, just laid out an agenda that any liberal would love and this is on top of the accomplishments already achieved.

You mean like shutting down the Moreland Commission because they were on the cusp of discovering he was every bit as filthy as convicted felons Sheldon Silver and Dean Skelos?

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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/8 "2017-01-11T12:16:11Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> You mean like shutting down the Moreland Commission because they were on the cusp of discovering he was every bit as filthy as convicted felons Sheldon Silver and Dean Skelos?

You mean like $15 minimum wage and 12 weeks paid family leave? Shit like that. I’ll worry about the accusations when they result in criminal charges. Prior to that, it’s just politics.

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/9 "2017-01-11T12:30:37Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> And this coming from an Australian atheist no less!

Well, you survived Tony Abbott…

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/10 "2017-01-11T12:35:46Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Y’all seem to be assuming Trump will last four years. I foresee he either resigns from office or gets impeached.

I’d prefer that he dies from VD but your ideas work, too.

I can only hope that the Democrats run a candidate who can and will kick his enormous orange ass and have the coattails to carry not only the House and Senate, but enough state legislatures to undo the 2010 Republican gerrymandering.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/11 "2017-01-11T12:47:16Z")

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I suspect you are in for 8 years of orange; then 4 (or more) years of Kushner.

In any case, you are going to need god.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/12 "2017-01-11T14:42:51Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> And this coming from an Australian atheist no less!
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> Fucken hell…I hope you guys can survive the next four years, and come out the other end not totally broken.
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> ☹

Your concern is very important to us. Please stay on the line for the next available operator…

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/13 "2017-01-11T15:07:43Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I’d prefer that he dies from VD but your ideas work, too.

Maybe he’ll pull a Len Bias.

Based on his past behaviour, and what appears to be his impending Constitutional violations, I think he should be impeached. But I’d rather see him quit.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/14 "2017-01-11T15:26:07Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Your concern is very important to us. Please stay on the line for the next available operator…

Yeah, fuck friends and sincere expressions of concern from people around the world wanting to wish us well in a politically and socially divided climate.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/15 "2017-01-11T15:33:20Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Yeah, fuck friends and sincere expressions of concern from people around the world wanting to wish us well in a politically and socially divided climate.

Let’s just [drop the big one now](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBrw3rQvKo). (We’ll save Australia. Don’t want to hurt no kangaroos.)

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/16 "2017-01-11T15:33:35Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> And this coming from an Australian atheist no less!
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> Fucken hell…I hope you guys can survive the next four years, and come out the other end not totally broken.
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> ☹

Too late, we’re already irreparably broken. The country will never be the same.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/17 "2017-01-11T20:34:21Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Too late, we’re already irreparably broken. The country will never be the same.

Never the same, that’s true. But that’s always true. We stopped being “the same” after Nixon, after Reagan, after Bush I, after Bush II, and after Obama.

We’re not broken, just smudged and smirched. We go into periods of less corruption (Obama) and more corruption (Bush II.) We’ve got a strong working democracy, although it’s trapped inside a republic. Trump will hurt us severely, but he can’t destroy the spirit of freedom.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Between Trump and the Republicans, even in a best case scenario they’ll do damage that’ll take decades to undo. And quite a bit of damage that will be unfixable. . . .

Agreed that he will do damage that will take decades to fix. And, yes, some of it will be irreversible. Some women will be compelled to have babies; some convicts will be executed without due process; Lithuania will be sacrificed to Russian aggression. Ultimately, the U.S. will come out of it with a working democracy, and there will be Democratic presidents to succeed him.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/18 "2017-01-11T21:01:01Z")

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The bottom line is that we’re no longer a single country. uS politics is now a zero sum game where the loser has no reason to work with the victor.

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/19 "2017-01-11T21:03:54Z")

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And to think the biggest profiteer of political discord in western civilization is Australian.

More likely a bunyip in a vaguely human guise, methinks.

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/20 "2017-01-11T21:10:45Z")

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Jesus, to hear you people talk, you’d think Barack was leaving to establish Obamanople, leaving the red states to sink into a thousand years of Dark Ages.

Wake me up when the Bernaissance begins, willya?

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