# God help you America.... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 11, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862 "2017-01-11T08:06:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/61 "2017-01-12T19:40:09Z")
> [@Waxwinged](#): > > I still don’t see daily lives of most people being changed much by Trump’s presidency. Pull your head out of your ass. I’m sitting here in a panic because I’m a cancer survivor and have no idea if I’ll have coverage. Will I be able to have the scans I need to be sure my cancer isn’t recurring or to get early treatment in case it does? \*Millions \*of Americans are having variations of the same thoughts. Maybe YOUR white, male, middle-aged life won’t change, but I’ve lived with this fear for MONTHS, in addition to the fear of my cancer returning. You ignorant self-centered DICK. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/62 "2017-01-12T19:42:54Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > A new Great Depression will change most people’s lives. As will the imposition of a new version of Jim Crow and replacing secularism with theocracy. > > And it’s Trump and the Republicans, not just Trump. > > Hope is dead; the monsters have won. Everything of value in this nation will be destroyed. The Democrats will be disenfranchised, imprisoned or executed as part of the religious, ethnic and political purge that is coming. There’s no hope there. > > The future of America is a tyrannical plutocratic theocracy ruling over a starving, terrorized populace and a collapsed economy. We thank you for your submission, but the teen dystopian fiction section of the bookstore is showing slowing sales and we will not be interested in publishing your fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/63 "2017-01-12T20:18:39Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > The premier (governor) of my state as I grew up was famous for his hostility and condescension towards the media. Like Trump his support was from the rednecks. He described press conferences as “feeding the chickens”. His lack of candour and his contempt of the media did him no harm. His supporters all regarded the media as pinko, damn librul, effete big city pansies, and cheered him on. His famous line when asked awkward questions by the media was “don’t you worry about that”, implying it was all under control and not something the media needed to worry about. > > His supporters regarded him as a Big Man who “got things done” and supported his stance that he didn’t need to explain himself to media lapdogs yapping at his heels. > > Sound like anyone you know? > > He only lasted 26 years. Just sayin’. Ah, Joh Bjelke-Petersen, that takes me back. He was one of ours originally, but we’ve always been shy of taking the credit. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/64 "2017-01-12T20:52:22Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > When it comes to religion and God and stuff, I don’t know what to believe, because how can I know, right? So I’m undeclared on the religion thing. But I’ll take this, with thanks: > \*\*God help you America… > > \*\*We’re gonna need it. Especially those of us who aren’t currently rich, those of us who give a shit about those that aren’t rich, and even those Trump voters who just can’t see it coming. We’re going to fucking need it. As the saying goes, “God watches over fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.” We’re about to find out if that’s true. I think there are 3 dark clouds hanging over us at the moment, and Trump is only one of them. The others: Congress in Republican hands, and they seem to be more concerned with locking in their agenda while they have a compliant POTUS than they care about checks and balances; and half the American public are dumber than a bag of hammers. The online comments about yesterday’s press conference are truly appalling – they seem to be buying into Trump’s re-definition of “fake news” as “any news he doesn’t like”. We need the press more than ever, and we need them to be both in opposition to the president and trusted. Simultaneously. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/65 "2017-01-12T20:58:18Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > As the saying goes, “God watches over fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.” Trump: the classic triple-threat. ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/66 "2017-01-12T21:11:17Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > I’ve tried to come up with candidates for ‘bunyip in a vaguely human guise’ but it continues to elude me. > > Care to elaborate? I thought I was clearly alluding to Rupert Murdoch. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/67 "2017-01-12T21:51:21Z")
> [@Trancephalic](#): > > I thought I was clearly alluding to Rupert Murdoch. :smack: Yes, of course! Sorry, I must have been particularly thick yesterday. Although in my defence, he’s a US citizen now too. I certainly don’t want to lay claim to him if at all possible. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/68 "2017-01-12T22:32:17Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > Pull your head out of your ass. I’m sitting here in a panic because I’m a cancer survivor and have no idea if I’ll have coverage. Will I be able to have the scans I need to be sure my cancer isn’t recurring or to get early treatment in case it does? > > \*Millions \*of Americans are having variations of the same thoughts. Maybe YOUR white, male, middle-aged life won’t change, but I’ve lived with this fear for MONTHS, in addition to the fear of my cancer returning. > > You ignorant self-centered DICK. Seconded. I’m on long-term disability insurance, which I paid for (before anyone gets snippy with me about “handouts”). In order to maintain my benefits, the insurance company requires that I must continue to see doctors and seek treatment (never mind that I need to see them for medical reasons). If I can’t get medical insurance I will be unable to seek treatments for my medical issues AND immediately thereafter I will be disqualified from continuing to receive my income. My life could change almost instantly. Like **Helena330** , I’ve lived with this fear for months, in addition to trying to manage my disease, which has me in constant, crippling pain. You, and everyone like you, are ignorant, self-centered dicks. OP - we’ll take all the help we can get. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/69 "2017-01-12T23:00:06Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > Our probe, Voyager 1, is the first man made object to travel into interstellar space. Voyager 2 will soon be the second. > > . Voyager 1 was sent September 5, 1977. If you’d like to have Trump take the credit for that, go for it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/70 "2017-01-12T23:03:07Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > We are being prayed for precisely because our political culture is a fucking mess. We’ve let the southern and midwestern degenerates get too loud. Your political culture is about to destroy your scientific and entrepreneurial culture. Your education systems used to be the best. No longer. Your scientific institutions used to be the best. No longer. Your list is a very good one - of your past achievements. Your politics have doomed you to a slow, steady degeneration. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/71 "2017-01-13T01:07:42Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > We have been so thoroughly dominant for so long that we’ve actually had mind-boggling feats of engineering and science such as the shuttle program that we later decided wasn’t worth it. And destroying the institutions of science that are responsible for that kind of thing is a priority of both Trump and the Republicans. [Scientists are already copying their data to other countries](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/?utm_term=.7a39563abc14) because they expect mass erasures. A vote for Trump or the Republicans is a vote against science; and America just decided to vote science away. It will be swept away, and replaced with officially mandated ignorance and lies. Denial will replace ecology, creationism replace biology, racism replace anthropology, plague replace vaccination. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/72 "2017-01-13T02:06:03Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > Pull your head out of your ass. I’m sitting here in a panic because I’m a cancer survivor and have no idea if I’ll have coverage. Will I be able to have the scans I need to be sure my cancer isn’t recurring or to get early treatment in case it does? > > \*Millions \*of Americans are having variations of the same thoughts. Maybe YOUR white, male, middle-aged life won’t change, but I’ve lived with this fear for MONTHS, in addition to the fear of my cancer returning. > > You ignorant self-centered DICK. Wait until they try to turn medicare into a voucher program, especially now that they seem to want to eliminate the pre-existing condition clause. I’m sure it’ll be really easy for an 81 year old to buy an affordable private insurance plan after all the consumer protections of the ACA have been removed. All of us are fucked if the GOP gets their way on medicare. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/73 "2017-01-13T02:53:00Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Your list is a very good one - of your past achievements. Your politics have doomed you to a slow, steady degeneration. Hey, these days we’re _praying_ for a degeneration that is merely slow and steady. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/74 "2017-01-13T03:03:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Voyager 1 was sent September 5, 1977. If you’d like to have Trump take the credit for that, go for it. I imagine he would if he were aware of it. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Your political culture is about to destroy your scientific and entrepreneurial culture. Your education systems used to be the best. No longer. Your scientific institutions used to be the best. No longer. > > Your list is a very good one - of your past achievements. Your politics have doomed you to a slow, steady degeneration. Our colleges and universities are the world’s best. These are what feed our scientific and technological advancements. If we can’t churn out well educated kids from our shitty public school system, then student and H1B visas cover the deficit. Well-educated smart people want to come here. You confidently write “no longer” without it having any basis in fact. Most of my list comes from the last 10 - 15 years. It will be just as impressive 10 -15 years from now. What I look forward to is China, Japan, India and the Europeans performing similarly. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > And destroying the institutions of science that are responsible for that kind of thing is a priority of both Trump and the Republicans. [Scientists are already copying their data to other countries](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/?utm_term=.7a39563abc14) because they expect mass erasures. > > A vote for Trump or the Republicans is a vote against science; and America just decided to vote science away. It will be swept away, and replaced with officially mandated ignorance and lies. Denial will replace ecology, creationism replace biology, racism replace anthropology, plague replace vaccination. You’re one of my favorite posters. Don’t ever change. I think what we’ve really lost is the respect of just about every nation worthy of respect over the last 20 years or so. That’s why these accomplishments are not readily recognized. That’s why the only leaders who sound optimistic about the Trump administration are Putin, Erdogan, Duterte and Netanyahu. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/75 "2017-01-13T04:24:50Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Your political culture is about to destroy your scientific and entrepreneurial culture. Your education systems used to be the best. No longer. Your scientific institutions used to be the best. No longer. > > Your list is a very good one - of your past achievements. Your politics have doomed you to a slow, steady degeneration. Yeah, the US used to be the country that sent men to the moon and stuff. That country no longer exists, it’s gone the way of Lemuria and Mu. Now the US is the country that watches Honey Boo-boo and elects the likes of Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/76 "2017-01-13T05:27:55Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Yeah, the US used to be the country that sent men to the moon and stuff. That country no longer exists, it’s gone the way of Lemuria and Mu. Now the US is the country that watches Honey Boo-boo and elects the likes of Donald Trump. Yup and the nation that talks about sending a man to the moon and winning WWII, all while suppressing minority voting and free thought. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/77 "2017-01-13T05:29:20Z")
The US helped win WWII, yes. Eventually. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/78 "2017-01-13T05:30:57Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Although in my defence, he’s a US citizen now too. He is a demon borne of dragonkind, no nation may lay claim to such as he. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/79 "2017-01-13T05:35:03Z")
> [@Battle\_Pope](#): > > Trump: the classic triple-threat. Supposedly, Trump doesn’t imbibe alcohol. I find that hard to believe. Anyone who snorts that much cocaine knows that only a couple of shots of the good stuff will bring you back down to the ground. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/80 "2017-01-13T07:31:31Z")
Well, the Soviets defeated Nazi Germany, the Americans won WWII by staying out of it for years and then taking advantage of the fact that everyone else’s factories were in ruins to sell shit, but USA! USA! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862.md?page=5)