# God help you America....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 11, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862 "2017-01-11T08:06:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/81 "2017-01-13T09:24:06Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Supposedly, Trump doesn’t imbibe alcohol.
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> I find that hard to believe. Anyone who snorts that much cocaine knows that only a couple of shots of the good stuff will bring you back down to the ground.

Alright. I dislike Trump as much as the next guy, but c’mon. He’s not a coke-head. He’s an amphetamine freak. Chrissakes, his “doctor” was the preeminent pill pusher in NYC.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/82 "2017-01-13T15:01:35Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> And this coming from an Australian atheist no less!
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> Fucken hell…I hope you guys can survive the next four years, and come out the other end not totally broken.
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> ☹

We survived the last eight years. The next eight will be better.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/83 "2017-01-13T15:04:52Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> We survived the last eight years. The next eight will be better.

And they say there’s no Right-wing humour.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/84 "2017-01-13T15:33:20Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> We survived the last eight years. The next eight will be better.

Piss off back to Cobra Kai, you oozing chancre.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/85 "2017-01-13T15:48:10Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> [This guy?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh_Bjelke-Petersen)  
> So he wasn’t actually popular, he just benefited from the ardent support of a vocal minority of reactionaries plus unscrupulous gerrymandering and chicanery.
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> Yes, it does sound familiar. But it also sounds like something we may be able to learn from.

Learn? From another country’s history?

Expect a call from the Un-American Activities Committee.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/86 "2017-01-13T17:41:36Z")

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I probably shouldn’t weigh in here … [giggle] …

63] The health care provider sector of the US economy … under the ACA … has had robust profits these past six years … this is something of one of the bigger sectors in our economy right now and thus has some political power … which they use to maintain these robust profits … it’s the capitalist way …

98] Republicans have held control of both houses of Congress during these six years of robust profits … the Republicans who hold this power haven’t been able to even pass a bill to repealing the ACA … which would potentially crash the robust profits the health care provider sector of the economy … in spite of the Republicans screaming at the top of their lungs that’s what they’re going to do …

So, I honestly think we have better than a 5% inconsistency between what Republican Leadership says and what they do … and this opens the door for some serious Crackpotism … I know how disapproving everyone here is on this kind of bullshit … and I know some thoughts outside the box really should stay outside the box … but here it goes, take it for what it’s worth and don’t be afraid to consider the source …

_ **Republicans are lying …** _

There … I said it … flame away …

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/87 "2017-01-13T17:50:09Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> Most of my list comes from the last 10 - 15 years. It will be just as impressive 10 -15 years from now. What I look forward to is China, Japan, India and the Europeans performing similarly.  
> .

Enjoy looking back at your past achievements. You’ve hit the pinnacle, and the recent election is the beginning of the slide down into the dissolution of empire. It was nice while it lasted.

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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/88 "2017-01-13T19:16:53Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Enjoy looking back at your past achievements. You’ve hit the pinnacle, and the recent election is the beginning of the slide down into the dissolution of empire. It was nice while it lasted.

Lol you’re jealous aren’t ya? Well some people look upon us in admiration and of course there will be cranks that become jealous. It’s understandable, we have all the cool shit plus the NFL. NASA has all it’s plans laid out for the next 10 - 15 years so you can go look them up and salivate at our rocket ships.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/89 "2017-01-13T20:07:18Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> NASA has all it’s plans laid out for the next 10 - 15 years so you can go look them up and salivate at our rocket ships.

A government agency plan that extends beyond the current budget is a wild-ass guess at best, and past one Congressional election is a hope and a dream - and it doesn’t matter who the President is.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/90 "2017-01-13T20:13:14Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> We survived the last eight years. The next eight will be better.

Fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/91 "2017-01-13T20:20:21Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> We survived the last eight years. The next eight will be better.

Better for nasty little bigots with healthcare, who like to go out and grab some pussy with impunity.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/92 "2017-01-13T20:50:56Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> Lol you’re jealous aren’t ya? Well some people look upon us in admiration and of course there will be cranks that become jealous. It’s understandable, we have all the cool shit plus the NFL. NASA has all it’s plans laid out for the next 10 - 15 years so you can go look them up and salivate at our rocket ships.

I will always be impressed with your past achievements. You have much there to be proud of. Years from now, I plan to visit your launch facilities much the same way I just toured the ruins of a Roman fort in northern England this past summer. It will be cool to look at all of the old artifacts, and remember when you did such cool stuff.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/93 "2017-01-13T21:02:43Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> Lol you’re jealous aren’t ya? […] It’s understandable, we have all the cool shit plus the NFL.

:dubious: Are you really under the impression that other nations envy us the possession of a sports league in which a couple dozen very large guys mostly stand around waiting, punctuated by brief intervals of frenzied inducement of chronic traumatic encephalopathy?

I’ve personally got nothing against football for those who like it, as long as they’re doing their best to keep the players as safe as possible. But you’re kidding yourself if you imagine that non-US cultures regard American football as an example of “cool shit” of which they’re “jealous”.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/94 "2017-01-13T21:33:21Z")

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America is going to die.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/95 "2017-01-13T21:36:07Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> We survived the last eight years. The next eight will be better.

So all that moaning you did about Obama was unnecessary?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/96 "2017-01-13T21:58:58Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> NASA has all it’s plans laid out for the next 10 - 15 years so you can go look them up and salivate at our rocket ships.

Oh please; one of Trump’s priorities is to gut NASA of anything that offends his prejudices, like climate research. Once he’s done pawing NASA it’ll be a joke and a shell of its former self.

Assuming the Republicans don’t just defund it entirely.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/97 "2017-01-13T22:18:26Z")

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Trump will not be impeached before March 15th, 2019.  
The GOP will be blindly destructive until the end.  
I suspect we will see a shift to Democrats in Mid-terms.  
Assuming he lives. That doctor of his was & is lying like crazy.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/98 "2017-01-13T22:20:27Z")

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A quatrain, Nostradamus?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/99 "2017-01-13T22:39:43Z")

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Part of the Superman mythos is that the rocket carrying the infant orphan Kal-El lands in the American heartland (specifically Kansas since 1986 or so) where he is adopted by a human couple who impart in him a strong moral center.

It saddens me a little to realize that if such an infant landed in Kansas now, he is extremely unlikely to develop into a champion of truth and justice, but rather an “American way” forged out of hatred, fear and fascism. Earth would be far better off if he lands near a coastal urban area, if he must land in the U.S. at all.

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-help-you-america/776862/100 "2017-01-13T23:38:59Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Earth would be far better off if he lands near a coastal urban area, if he must land in the U.S. at all.

I read some parallel world comic book on this theme not too long ago. It must have been fairly old: Superbaby had crashed in the USSR.

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