# God I hate Fox News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 18, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504 "2010-02-18T19:03:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/21 "2010-02-18T21:51:39Z")

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> [@Dob](#):
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> Come on. If you dont think this is another example of Fox News and the daily fellatio of the republican party your nuts (pun intended!).

fucking please. MSNBC has these headlines:

Obama forms deficit panel without Hill’s help  
Dalai Lama ‘very happy’ with Obama meeting  
Excitement masks divisions within GOP  
Fineman: Bayh’s beef with retirement fallout  
Obama supports Senate Democrats out West  
With CPAC opener, Rubio hits the mainstream  
White House: Dems near accord on health care bill

They didn’t use “president” either. Is MSNBC fellating the 'pubs, too?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/22 "2010-02-18T22:08:15Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> What does the AP Style Manual say on this? (Do not have one handy sadly)

My copy says that in a headline situation George Walker Bush is supposed to be referred to as “ **Shrubya** ,” “ **Former President Chimp-for-Brains** ,” “ **Misbegotten Piss-Poor Excuse For a Chief Executive** ,” or simply “ **President Bush** ,” so it looks like FauxNews is in the clear.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/23 "2010-02-18T22:08:48Z")

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> [@HookerChemical](#):
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> I believe the NPR policy is to always refer to the POTUS as “President Obama” the first time and “Mr. Obama” each time thereafter in thereafter. I remember the Ombudsman discussing it a couple months ago.

Maybe on the air. This [article](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123848421), though, refers to him as President Obama at the beginning and “Obama” thereafter (and in the headline).

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**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/24 "2010-02-18T22:16:31Z")

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> [@El Kabong](#):
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> Yeah, shouldn’t it be President Barack HUSSEIN Obama?

Actually, it’s El Barack Al-Husseini Ahmedinosamabama MUSLIM. Muslim is always capitalised. Get it right.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/25 "2010-02-18T22:38:26Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I especially loved Steve “The Mince” Doocey’s comment on Janine and Rosie: “I think they should just shut up.”
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> Deep thoughts indeed from that melted Ken doll.

Don’t blame me, it was on in the hotel breakfast room.

He was just all randy, being only feet away from the Crotch of Greatness, Once Removed.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/26 "2010-02-18T22:43:40Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> They didn’t use “president” either. Is MSNBC fellating the 'pubs, too?

MSNBC will fellate anyone who will allow them.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/27 "2010-02-18T23:19:11Z")

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> [@lalenin](#):
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> Really? From what I see they don’t use titles in headlines, unless there is room for confusion, and since there are both a President Bush and a Jeb Bush in that list, but only one Obama that would probably explain it.
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> I’m sure you have plenty of reasons to hate this company, but this list of headlines probably shouldn’t be one of them. Then again, it’s your own bile you’re wasting.

Well stated.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/28 "2010-02-19T03:01:29Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Fox N Friends. My daily blood pressure raiser.
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> This morning there was some blurb about how Janine Garrafalo and Rosie O’Donuts made some crack about Rush Limbaugh and they were all up in arms.

They can say whatever they want. It’s a free country.

HOWEVER!!!1111ononeoneone

Why would/should anyone else care? Opinion are like assholes. Everyone’s got one.

Besides, Rush is a big boy. Can’t he handle it himself?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/29 "2010-02-19T03:28:33Z")

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Worst Pitting [del]Ever[/del] Today.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/30 "2010-02-19T03:59:44Z")

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Well, if they had positive news about Obama to report, they’d need extra room to squeeze in the ®…

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/31 "2010-02-19T04:19:20Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Opinion are like assholes. Everyone’s got one.

… and they all stink.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/32 "2010-02-19T04:24:12Z")

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God, I HATE those tabloid bitches and bastards.

Bring back Huntley & Brinkley.

Give me the facts, present them to me without bias, and as best as you can obtain them, let me know you tried, and then, if you _didn’t_ get the fuckin’ story you angled for, don’t start _snivellin’_ and whining about it, ya dumb ass piece of shit!

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/33 "2010-02-19T14:52:21Z")

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If you hate them, why do you go to their website?

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/34 "2010-02-19T15:21:06Z")

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[Crotchety Old Man] I know that’s not at me, but…

Well, I _don’t_ go to their website, and by-pass that channel every chance I get. I favor CNN, (watch it with HLN being "tabloid’, mommy-friggers, okay?), but even THEY need to curb their fucking tongues.

Just (as a former award-winning broadcast journalist) sayin’, I mean.[/COM]

Okay, I’ll go eat my num-numbs, now.

Assholes. (THEM, not Y’ALL!)

Q

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**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/35 "2010-02-19T15:37:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> They didn’t use “president” either. Is MSNBC fellating the 'pubs, too?

I dont care if they use president, or call him just Obama (although I think it disrespectful). What bothered me on Fox was that the FORMER president had the title, where as the current president did not. That struck me as a bit on the ball sucking side of the pubs.

Had they used first names for both, not an issue. But to specifically leave one off ( the one they hate) and name the other?? come on… worth a little scorn I think.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/36 "2010-02-19T15:44:44Z")

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Perhaps, until you read the posts from people who pointed out that “Bush” could refer to three different people and “Obama” does not.

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**Author:** ![Pandoranoid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce73a5/32.png) [@Pandoranoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pandoranoid)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/37 "2010-02-19T15:55:30Z")

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2cents: I can see both sides of this-it certainly would be confusing if the Bush name wasn’t preceded by a title. But really, how much extra work or time would it take to put the ‘President’ title in front of Obama? And I may be wrong, but I always thought it was sort of expected that you use the title when refering to any president, acting or not, out of respect. So I can buy the interpretation of Fox not using it even once for Obama in the OP’s listing as suggestive of disrespect.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/38 "2010-02-19T16:02:16Z")

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It’s a fucking headline. They abbreviated “Alabama professor” to “Ala. prof.” and didn’t refer to Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney as “Governor” or to Scott Brown as “Senator” either.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/39 "2010-02-19T16:05:37Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Note also that one headline is about Jeb, and they use “Jeb Bush”.

They should have called him “Future President Jeb Bush.”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-i-hate-fox-news/529504/40 "2010-02-19T16:10:42Z")

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Not likely. He had a 64% approval rating when he left office, and yet he didn’t even run for Mel Martinez’ Senate seat. I think he’s done with national politics.

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