# God is a lousy wedding planner

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**Created:** [April 22, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552 "2021-04-22T17:27:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/21 "2021-04-22T23:18:03Z")

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I was surprised this couple is black. Not to stereotype but it seemed like something that only a white and rich-enough-to-pretend-but-not-quite-there social climbing couple would do.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/22 "2021-04-22T23:19:41Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> (It’s also possible that the deception was entirely on the part of the groom, and that his fiancee did not realize that the place was not, in fact, his.)

A more likely scenario would be him saying something like, “Don’t worry, babe; I got permission for us to have our wedding there.”

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/23 "2021-04-23T01:05:06Z")

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Didn’t read the article, so I may be off base here.

But there are no shortage of “prosperity theology” supposedly Christian televangelist snake oil salesmen out there. A prominent one with a largely Black following is

> **[T. D. Jakes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._D._Jakes)**
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> Thomas Dexter Jakes (born June 9, 1957), known as T. D. Jakes, is an American bishop, author and filmmaker. He is the bishop of The Potter's House, a non-denominational American megachurch. Jakes's church services and Evangelistic sermons are broadcast on The Potter's Touch.
> Thomas Dexter Jakes was born on June 9, 1957, in South Charleston, West Virginia, and grew up in Vandalia, West Virginia.

He’s quite a stirring speaker. Really.

I could see some not too smart people totally buying into the schtick that if you really _really_ _ **really** _ want it and pray fervently (and donate just a bit), then God will totally fulfill your Big Dreams.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/24 "2021-04-23T01:10:26Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Florida (of course) couple plans an elaborate wedding at their dream house which God chose for them.  
> It wasn’t their house.  
> They didn’t have permission.  
> The owner was home.  
> God sucks. -
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> [https://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/wedding-bride-groom-crashers-77215649?fbclid=IwAR10vIwaP2G0CdmVvZLma8mCcmEtMg8HlSOFrFyfdMf4h8OoygLFVxhdkak](https://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/wedding-bride-groom-crashers-77215649?fbclid=IwAR10vIwaP2G0CdmVvZLma8mCcmEtMg8HlSOFrFyfdMf4h8OoygLFVxhdkak)

Anyone else notice this from the estate description?

> an 800-foot (240-meter) bar.

Someone likes their booze.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/25 "2021-04-23T01:22:53Z")

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Hey, that’s racist!

We will never have true equality until a black person can be just as big a dumbass as a white person.

😃

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/26 "2021-04-23T02:34:47Z")

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Ah yes, similar to the “name it and claim it” theology. (referred to by some critics as “blab it and grab it”)

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/27 "2021-04-23T20:28:59Z")

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I would love to have an insiders view on things like this from the very beginning. I’m sure this guy didn’t just wake up one morning with this whole idea laid out in his head. What was the original spark that started the plan? How the plan evolved, slowly step by step all the way to the end.

Also, don’t you have to put down deposits for catering, band etc? Pay for the cake. How much did they shell out and how much did they plan to just fuck people over on payments. I wonder what kind of jobs this couple has.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/28 "2021-04-23T20:39:01Z")

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_“God is a lousy wedding planner”_

He sucks at weather, too.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/29 "2021-04-23T20:58:25Z")

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Interesting point. The article doesn’t mention caterers etc showing up; just the guy. Did they even hire anyone?

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/30 "2021-04-23T21:00:41Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> **[This is the place.](https://www.google.ca/maps/@26.0498732,-80.3377558,3a,75y,103.49h,87.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSJOqHZCnY45i1isXMC-cYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)**

It even has a moat!!

OK, drainage ditch, but it’s a moat as far as I’m concerned! 🤣

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/31 "2021-04-23T21:02:20Z")

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I know, right? Don’t people shell out a bunch of cash before weddings? What was he going to do if his plan worked, everyone showed up and there was no food, no band and no booze at the 240ft bar?

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/32 "2021-04-23T21:05:26Z")

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My understanding is that the guy (and presumably a bunch of friends) showed up in the morning to “set up”. That’s when they discovered that, amazingly, this huge mansion and pool and all its amenities were not, after all, free for anyone who felt like coming by. They would have had a few hours to try to cancel whatever services they had booked, not to mention all the guests. And I’m sure they would have been on the hook for the costs for everything they had booked.

Their wedding website, as recorded on the Wayback Machine, was surprisingly well done. Someone was taking this seriously – I’m assuming the now-pissed-off [former] bride.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/33 "2021-04-23T22:27:04Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Their wedding website, as recorded on the Wayback Machine, was surprisingly well done.

It is from a site for wedding announcements. Probably provides templates. I found it by googling one of their names. They had already deleted it by then, but fortunately [archive.org](http://archive.org) captured it. (I figure the header about a delay because of Covid was put up after the failed wedding but before the international attention, and that he/they still hoped to BS their way through this.)

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/34 "2021-04-24T01:16:23Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> That’s when they discovered that, amazingly, this huge mansion and pool and all its amenities were not, after all, free for anyone who felt like coming by. T

I live not far from an area where ultra fatcats have $50million houses. Most of which sit apparently vacant year round. Only somebody who pays careful attention would notice the groundskeepers, housekeepers, and security on duty 24/7/365.

A goofball who only knew about life in the working class neighborhoods & suburbs might imagine these places were unused and unguarded, so one could “borrow” the grounds for an outdoor event and the owners would never be the wiser. Unimaginative plus naïve can bring bad decision-making to a whole new level.

There’s dumb, dumb as a box of rocks, and dumb as a truckload of rocks. These guys might have been up there in “railroad trainload of rocks” territory.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/35 "2021-04-24T01:29:36Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> What was he going to do if his plan worked, everyone showed up and there was no food, no band and no booze at the 240ft bar?

Please: 800-foot (240-_meter_) bar.  
(My initial reaction was who the Hell even HAS an 800ft. bar unless you are at the Vegas Strip?)

> [@silenus](#):
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> We will never have true equality until a black person can be just as big a dumbass as a white person

This is indeed a proud moment of social progress for the Florida Man community.

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> They had already deleted it by then, but fortunately [archive.org](http://archive.org) captured it.

Ah, the online world. Lending immortality to your moments of asshattery.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/36 "2021-04-24T01:48:50Z")

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The 800-foot bar bothers me. I thought they were saying that the bar was 800 feet _long_ but 800 _square feet_ sounds more reasonable. I found the real estate listing for the house and it talks about a two-story “gentlemen’s bar”.

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> (My initial reaction was who the Hell even HAS an 800ft. bar unless you are at the Vegas Strip?)

Is there even a bar that long in the world? As far as I can find online, the longest continuous bar is [405 feet, 10 inches](https://www.beerbarrelpib.com/about-us).

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> but 800 _square feet_ sounds more reasonable.

Yeah, I think the news website had to have meant this instead. Unless the estate just so happens to have an 800 foot metal rod lying around.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/38 "2021-04-24T04:02:59Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I found the real estate listing for the house and it talks about a two-story “gentlemen’s bar”.

Ah. Florida. ‘Gentlemen’s Bar’.

Stripper stage.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/39 "2021-04-24T12:17:11Z")

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Courtney Hawkins. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtney\_Hawkins\_(American\_football)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtney_Hawkins_(American_football))

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-is-a-lousy-wedding-planner/940552/40 "2021-04-24T14:37:13Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Ah. Florida. ‘Gentlemen’s Bar’.
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> Stripper stage.

Ref the current thread on stuff people would want in their own personal cost-is-no-object mega-mansion, somehow that idea has never come up.

Sounds like a failure of imagination to me. 😉

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