# God vs. Elder Gods **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 30, 2003, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048 "2003-04-30T01:16:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/21 "2003-05-01T04:59:45Z")
You know, Shiva is pretty cool. I just thought I’d mention it. However, if you were talking about a battle it is more likely that one of the incarnations of the Mahadevi (great goddess) such as Durga or Kali would be the one who’d do the fighting. ---
**Author:** ![DreadCthulhu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DreadCthulhu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DreadCthulhu)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/22 "2003-05-01T05:56:45Z")
Bring all of of them on, I can take them. After all, can they drive men mad merely by looking at them? ---
**Author:** ![Azargoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@Azargoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azargoth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/23 "2003-05-01T07:57:41Z")
Actually if you read any of the Dream Quest of Unknown Kaddath, the Earth Gods are protected by The Crawling Chaos Nyrlahotep(that’s not the correct spelling but I don’t have any Lovecraft handy right now) ---
**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/24 "2003-05-01T18:53:27Z")
Well, DreadCthulhu, they aren’t men. and they look just as odd as you. (explain a 4-armed guy with an elephant head as not being odd…) How about God (of Jack Chick Tracts) Vs. Every other god from other religions (like the old greek gods, hindu gods, Egyptian gods, Cthulhu and his lackeys…) ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/25 "2003-05-02T12:18:39Z")
Don’t bring the Egyptian gods into this unless you want your pet godlings to suffer an ass kicking that will permanently render them objects of derision. ---
**Author:** ![screech-owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@screech-owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/screech-owl)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/26 "2003-05-02T14:03:11Z")
[This settles it. _urp_](http://www.cafeshops.com/cultofcthulhu.3965262?zoom=yes#zoom) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/27 "2003-05-03T01:11:15Z")
Oh, screw Cthulhu. It is the most overrated diety in the multiverse. Nodens & the rest have imprisoned it for a bazillion years beneath the ocean. How goddamn powerful can it be? Hell, Ol’ Squidhead was stopped from getting out by a good ol’ boy lieutenant and a couple of sailors. I bet it couldn’t even beat a halfway powerful kami. Yog-Sothoth, contiguous with all space and coterminous with all time, now there’s a demon worth respect. ---
**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/28 "2003-05-03T02:32:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scumpup \* > \*\*Don’t bring the Egyptian gods into this unless you want your pet godlings to suffer an ass kicking that will permanently render them objects of derision. \*\* Ah, but Cthulhu and friends would eat the egyptian gods! and, peyote Coyote, that’s because mr. Squid was drunk and walked into traffic after getting clonked with the happy hammer by 75 15-foot tall Red Green lookalikes… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/29 "2003-05-03T02:35:37Z")
> [@](#): > > and, peyote Coyote, that’s because mr. Squid was drunk and walked into traffic after getting clonked with the happy hammer by 75 15-foot tall Red Green lookalikes… ??? ---
**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/30 "2003-05-03T02:42:26Z")
never mind. i said, Cthulhu was drunk that night and got the 9beep) kicked out of him, that’s why he got smacked like a redheaded stepchild by that ship. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/31 "2003-05-03T04:52:52Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by The Peyote Coyote_ > Hell, Ol’ Squidhead was stopped from getting out by a good ol’ boy lieutenant and a couple of sailors. Not to mention the [Ghostbusters](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22michael+reaves%22+%22collect+call%22+ghostbusters). ---
**Author:** ![Vanyel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Vanyel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vanyel)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/32 "2003-05-03T16:17:21Z")
Ya know, when I first saw this thread title, I thought it was referring to the David Eddings series(es?) of _THe Elenium_ and _The Tamuli_. [sub]please no “ewww, you read Eddings?!?”[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/33 "2003-05-03T16:35:11Z")
Eh? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/34 "2003-05-04T04:11:19Z")
> [@](#): > > (Reuters) Arkham, Massachussetts: The efforts of linguistic and religious scholars at Miskatonic University to make unspeakability accessible to a twenty-first century public have culminated in the release of the “American Standard Necronomicon.” > > Project leader Dr. Norbert West expressed surprise at the condemnatory response from the international chthonic studies community. “The new translation is accurate in essence and in no way erodes the integrity of the original document – spiritually, academically, or squamously,” he insists. “The Necronomicon, remember, is a vernacular text and while the numerous literal interpretations that have escaped over the centuries are most certainly not to be dismissed, they simply do not convey the raw emotion of the author. Take for example the famous quote ‘Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!’, which editions even as modern as the Avon translation have incorporated intact. Ask yourself honestly: Could a layman reader truly grasp the complex layers of terror, devotion, and smugness in this scrap from a dead language? The answer, of course, is no. Hence the need for an ASN and its user-friendly paraphrase, ‘I have accepted Cthulhu as my own personal Saviour, HAW HAW!’”[…] This has to be one of the funniest parodies I’ve seen in quite a while! Great work! ---
**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/35 "2003-05-04T12:25:35Z")
What does IA!IA!CTHULHU FHTAGN! mean anyways? Is it _battlecry_!_battlecry_! Cthulhu will eat you! or something? or is it I’m Cthulhu and I’m an eatapersonaholic… ---
**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/36 "2003-05-04T12:29:52Z")
I would Loooove seeing His4ever’s take on this… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/37 "2003-05-04T20:16:20Z")
Thanks, **Polycarp**! Too bad [Cthulhu jokes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=177712#post3292503) are the only thing I’m good for, though 😃 ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/38 "2003-05-04T20:19:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Some Guy \* > \*\*Okay, but who would win: Jesus or an Imperial Star Destroyer? \*\* The Enterprise 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/39 "2003-05-04T20:22:51Z")
I disagree, detop. I say Superman’s foreskin. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048/40 "2003-05-04T20:33:44Z")
So the current hierarchy is Yog-Sothoth \> Gustaf Johansen \> Ghostbusters \> Cthulhu \> Mahadevi incarnations \> Egyptian gods \> Superman \> Silver Surfer \> Batman \> Wolverine \> Febreeze™ \> Jack Chick God? Superman can command his foreskin into battle? _Man_, I have to start reading comics again. Is this a power he gained under Earth’s yellow sun, or did all Kryptonians have it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-vs-elder-gods/172048.md?page=1)