# Goddammit (Warhammer 40K)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 9, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311 "2012-02-09T14:57:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![XanderCrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ee59a6/32.png) [@XanderCrews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XanderCrews)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/261 "2013-06-28T21:48:50Z")

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I’m doing my Chaos in a lot of browns.

The power armor is usually Rhinox Hide, which is what I’m going to do the body of the Heldrake in. The intricate parts will be Mournfang Brown and Steel Legion Drab.

Screamer Pink for icons and such, I mainly do Slannesh.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/262 "2013-07-01T13:55:13Z")

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> [@psiekier](#):
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> [Tell me about it!](http://www.coolminiornot.com/8824?browseid=5871931)
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> You forgot to provide a link, **CandidGamera**. 😉

[http://www.coolminiornot.com/335699](http://www.coolminiornot.com/335699)  
[http://www.coolminiornot.com/335698](http://www.coolminiornot.com/335698)

I can’t help but think it’s my photography fail, as I just got another compliment on that captain yesterday, when I was at the local game store and actually got to log some table time against a local Dark Angels player.

> [@](#):
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> … _and_ Crimson Fists have chapter-specific iconography (shoulder pauldrons, sergeants, captains, etc.) _and_ they can have the Storm Talon!

But I want to do a _custom_ Chapter. With my choices on name, color, symbol, et cetera. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/263 "2013-07-01T14:36:23Z")

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Any ideas for your own chapter?

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/264 "2013-07-02T13:29:58Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> Any ideas for your own chapter?

Well, yeah. I want a chapter symbol that I can easily freehand, and an emphasis on heavy weaponry (with an eye towards fielding a Master of the Forge with a Conversion Beamer, if I can kitbash the beamer..) so I settled on a thunderbolt symbol, and the rest has fallen into place thusly :

Parent Chapter : Salamanders  
Symbol : Thunderbolt  
Colors : Orange and either White or Black  
Name : Sons of Thunder, or Thunder Lords, or Thunderbolts.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/265 "2013-07-02T13:51:57Z")

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Or Thunder Heads.

Any idea of how that scheme will be arranged? Like orange body and black/white helmet and aquila? Have you considered maybe a little green thrown in as a tribute to their parent chapter?

Be sure to post a pic of your first guys in the new scheme.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/266 "2013-07-02T17:36:34Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> Or Thunder Heads.
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> Any idea of how that scheme will be arranged? Like orange body and black/white helmet and aquila? Have you considered maybe a little green thrown in as a tribute to their parent chapter?
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> Be sure to post a pic of your first guys in the new scheme.

Green + Orange makes my head hurt. 🙂 I was thinking Orange on the main armor bits, with black/white trim, symbols, and aquila.

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**Author:** ![awldune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@awldune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/awldune)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/267 "2013-07-02T18:39:46Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> [http://www.coolminiornot.com/335699](http://www.coolminiornot.com/335699)  
> [http://www.coolminiornot.com/335698](http://www.coolminiornot.com/335698)
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> I can’t help but think it’s my photography fail, as I just got another compliment on that captain yesterday, when I was at the local game store and actually got to log some table time against a local Dark Angels player.

IMHO these look pretty good, and better than 99% of what I painted when I was in the hobby. Really sweet bases!

That said, I don’t think they look up to competition level. The faces are the weakest part to my judgement, with very little (or very subtle) shading and highlighting.

Just keep at it. You are new to the hobby and it takes time to get good at it. I used to love painting orks / orcs because there is a lot of exposed flesh to highlight. It’s good practice.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/268 "2013-07-02T18:51:46Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> Green + Orange makes my head hurt. 🙂

So [something like this](http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/2011/miniatures/the-imperial-service/) doesn’t do it for you?

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/269 "2013-07-03T12:58:50Z")

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> [@awldune](#):
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> IMHO these look pretty good, and better than 99% of what I painted when I was in the hobby. Really sweet bases!
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> That said, I don’t think they look up to competition level. The faces are the weakest part to my judgement, with very little (or very subtle) shading and highlighting.
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> Just keep at it. You are new to the hobby and it takes time to get good at it. I used to love painting orks / orcs because there is a lot of exposed flesh to highlight. It’s good practice.

No, I’m not new to painting - I think I’ve got 15 years in painting. 😉 And the photos don’t really show off the faces well at all.

Plus there’s the fact that some people go for exaggerated highlights to make a figure stand out, whereas I think it makes them look garish and cartoonish. So, especially on flesh, I work more subtly.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/270 "2013-07-03T13:01:06Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> So [something like this](http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/2011/miniatures/the-imperial-service/) doesn’t do it for you?

You know, that’s not bad, but except for that middle figure - it’s as close to red / drab green as it is orange/green.

Orange / Green are the colors of Arthur Curry of Atlantis, and I am not planning to nickname my chapter the Aquamarines. 😉

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/271 "2013-07-04T14:21:45Z")

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Okay, the people at CoolMiniOrNot are straight-up trolling me. Got some great pictures of my SM Captain, posted them up - and now it’s scoring lower.

I don’t want to sound conceited, but if this is a 5 :

> **[CoolMiniOrNot - Mordor Armoured Troll - customised](http://www.coolminiornot.com/469499)**
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> The Internet's largest gallery of painted miniatures, with a large repository of how-to articles on miniature painting

Then the scale is fucked.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/272 "2013-07-05T22:07:09Z")

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Finally got my Wraithguard photographed and posted:  
[A group shot with the Farseer.](http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Paintergeist/media/Games%20Workshop%20Minis/IMG_2485_zps343b97d7.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0#/user/Paintergeist/media/Games%20Workshop%20Minis/IMG_2485_zps343b97d7.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0&_suid=137306175052506260630560399202)

[Just the wraithguard.](http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Paintergeist/media/Games%20Workshop%20Minis/IMG_2485_zps343b97d7.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0#/user/Paintergeist/media/Games%20Workshop%20Minis/IMG_2483_zpsbeaa1fe7.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1&_suid=137306175052506260630560399202)

[A single shot.](http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Paintergeist/media/Games%20Workshop%20Minis/IMG_2485_zps343b97d7.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0#/user/Paintergeist/media/Games%20Workshop%20Minis/IMG_2481_zps18682a38.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3&_suid=137306175052506260630560399202)

[A side shot.](http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Paintergeist/media/Games%20Workshop%20Minis/IMG_2485_zps343b97d7.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0#/user/Paintergeist/media/Games%20Workshop%20Minis/IMG_2482_zpsc9945283.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2&_suid=137306175052506260630560399202)

[And the rear.](http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Paintergeist/media/Games%20Workshop%20Minis/IMG_2485_zps343b97d7.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0#/user/Paintergeist/media/Games%20Workshop%20Minis/IMG_2480_zps0a178f8e.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4&_suid=137306175052506260630560399202)

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**Author:** ![XanderCrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ee59a6/32.png) [@XanderCrews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XanderCrews)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/273 "2013-07-07T05:09:44Z")

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Those are great. I’m still working on my Iyanden Wraiths. Almost done with the first 5, but they are the old models. I’m going to turn the new models into 5 wraith blades with axes.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/274 "2013-07-08T13:40:07Z")

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Very nice, Hypno! Love the bases.

I just finished an alternate Tac Sergeant and a magnetized weapon trooper, and started on my Dreadnought.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/275 "2013-07-09T19:53:34Z")

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Now I just have to get the rest of my eldar photographed for ebay.

It’s a little annoying that they don’t all have the same basing since they represent minis done years apart just for fun.

It can be tough selling minis for an army because they don’t match what the buyer already has. I hope to get around this since all my eldar are either squads of aspect warriors (and exarch) or harlequins that don’t have to match a craftworld. Even the farseer and wraithguard can be their own scheme without having to conform to a specific army.

Any tips for listing a few squads of eldar on ebay?

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/276 "2013-07-10T12:57:22Z")

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No ebay tips to offer, but I’ve been hanging out on [irc.griefplay.net](http://irc.griefplay.net), in #wh40k - some of the folks there are pretty savvy, might be able to offer advice.

The Dreadnought’s coming along faster than I thought it would, really, considering it’s my first one and I’m having to make all the color choices along the way…

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/277 "2013-07-12T00:58:20Z")

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Nice all-round shots of my previous sergeant, with better clarit :

> **[Blood Angels Sergeant Hestion](https://candid-gamera.tumblr.com/post/55186707112/blood-angels-sergeant-hestion)**
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> With my new photo mastery. Multiple angles, too.

My newly completed sergeant :

> **[Blood Angels Sergeant Clarion](https://candid-gamera.tumblr.com/post/55187328664/blood-angels-sergeant-clarion)**
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> This one's all new! Not based yet, but finished the painting on Sunday.
> Poor Sergeant Clarion has numerous cybernetic replacements in his head, including half of his jaw.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/278 "2013-07-12T16:28:16Z")

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Well, I got confirmation from the folks at CoolMiniOrNot - their scale and my scale are so far off of one another that the site’s pretty much useless to me. It’s geared towards display painters, so the ‘average’ tabletop quality miniature seems to be around a 3. Lesson learned!

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/279 "2013-07-15T01:19:33Z")

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Got my Dreadnought done, yeah! Except basing and sealing. But it turned out great!

> **[Blood Angels Dreadnought](https://candid-gamera.tumblr.com/post/55469466481/blood-angels-dreadnought)**
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> I've had this sucker sitting with a basecoat for a long damn time, and finally got around to it this past week. Still needs to be based and sealed, but I'm pleased.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddammit-warhammer-40k/612311/280 "2013-07-15T01:39:08Z")

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Very nice! I like the battle damaged and chipped paint.

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