# Goddamn Chinese-made CRAP!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-chinese-made-crap/301225>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 26, 2005, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-chinese-made-crap/301225 "2005-04-26T19:44:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-chinese-made-crap/301225/61 "2005-04-27T16:37:02Z")

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I think you people are being a bit silly.

The OP was clearly saying that Chinese people make poor products. His focus should have been, companies who build their stuff in China happen to have shoddy quality control. You can’t blame that on the people. If the quality controls were set higher, poor-quality stuff wouldn’t get through.

Everybody since then seems to have it straight - China-based companies, like many other nations, happen to make poor stuff. This is not racist. Saying the Chinese people are solely at fault is.

It’s only two people’s fault: supply, the company who makes them, and demand, the people who buy them.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-chinese-made-crap/301225/62 "2005-04-27T17:01:37Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I think you people are being a bit silly.

“You people”? Are you some sort of racist?

> [@Anaamika](#):
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> The OP was clearly saying that Chinese people make poor products. His focus should have been, companies who build their stuff in China happen to have shoddy quality control. You can’t blame that on the people. If the quality controls were set higher, poor-quality stuff wouldn’t get through.

Huh. Compare and contrast with the _actual_ OP:

> [@the bloody OP](#):
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> **It’s the corporate motherfuckers that allow poor quality and it’s them I pit** into a thousand hells.

Do I need to make the font larger? Could I underline the relevant words? Could I train a team of itinerant chipmunks to sing the point to you in an amusing, harmonic, yet basically educational manner? Or is it obvious enough, already?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-chinese-made-crap/301225/63 "2005-04-27T17:36:35Z")

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> [@CynicalGabe](#):
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> He didn’t, he implied that everything made in China was inferior and I take that to mean he thinks that something made in the US will by default be worth a shit.

My post was specifically referring to the shoes I bought and pitted the company responsible. _You’re_ the one who is generalizing it to include all products.

I drive a Honda.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-chinese-made-crap/301225/64 "2005-04-27T17:56:34Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Everybody since then seems to have it straight - China-based companies, like many other nations, happen to make poor stuff. This is not racist.

Why limit it to China-based companies? I don’t think it’s impossible to find examples of well-made products coming from Chinese companies that have higher production values, larget budgets, better materials, etc. Similarly, I don’t think it’s impossible to find examples of poorly-made products coming from companies (in _any_ country) that have low production values, skinflint budgets, shoddy materials, etc.

The problem is with crappy products made on a shoestring budget that’s sold to people looking for a “bargain.” The countries of origin and the ethnicity of the people involved is not a factor.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-chinese-made-crap/301225/65 "2005-04-27T18:39:02Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> The problem is with crappy products made on a shoestring budget that’s sold to people looking for a “bargain.”

These were $85 cross-trainers. Not top-drawer, but not exactly cheap. I would expect a pair of $25 Nikes to be less than optimal.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-chinese-made-crap/301225/66 "2005-04-27T19:39:58Z")

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> [@Dead Badger](#):
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> “You people”? Are you some sort of racist?

I’m not even sure what you mean by this. I meant, you people in this thread, you :wally

> [@Dead Badger](#):
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> Huh. Compare and contrast with the _actual_ OP:  
> Do I need to make the font larger? Could I underline the relevant words? Could I train a team of itinerant chipmunks to sing the point to you in an amusing, harmonic, yet basically educational manner? Or is it obvious enough, already?

Also from the OP, you twit:

> [@ChefGuy](#):
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> Sorry cocksucker Chinese shoe factory-using bastards. Now I get to start all over again with this bullshit. And I don’t want to hear about the poor cocksuckers only getting 12 cents a year and having to eat dirt three times a day. It’s the corporate motherfuckers that allow poor quality and it’s them I pit into a thousand hells.

It didn’t say this part is relevant or another isn’t.

Don’t fucking change people’s quotes either, _asshole_. It’s not permitted around here and I like it that way.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-chinese-made-crap/301225/67 "2005-04-27T20:44:47Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I’m not even sure what you mean by this. I meant, you people in this thread, you :wally

That’ll be a “joke”, dear heart. I realise I didn’t use a winky smiley, but frankly, it wasn’t terribly difficult and I charitably assumed you could cope.

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> Also from the OP, you twit:
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> > [@Chefguy](#):
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> > Sorry cocksucker Chinese shoe factory- **using bastards**. Now I get to start all over again with this bullshit. And **I don’t want to hear about the poor cocksuckers only getting 12 cents a year** and having to eat dirt three times a day. **It’s the corporate motherfuckers** that allow poor quality **and it’s them I pit** into a thousand hells.

You apparently posted this because you think it helps you, but for your edification I have again bolded the relevant parts to indicate that it was in fact the people using factories with poor QA that the OP was pitting. If it still isn’t clear, I have those chipmunks just ready and waiting.

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> Don’t fucking change people’s quotes either, _asshole_. It’s not permitted around here and I like it that way.

And exactly where in the ever-loving fuck did I do that, hmm? I mean, it’s apparent that creative reading is a passion of yours, but I’m really stumped as to where I fictionalised anything that anyone said.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-chinese-made-crap/301225/68 "2005-04-28T00:52:35Z")

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> [@Duderdude2](#):
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> There you go again fuckface, contorting what someone said to reflect whatever the fuck it you want it to.

Well, it wouldn’t be a day if someone didn’t call me a “fuckface”. Can you explain to me _your_ interpretation of what **Klaatu** said by this:

> [@Klaatu](#):
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> Ok, being involved in the thread from the beginning, I will still say that the Chinese make inferior tools.

> [@Chefguy](#):
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> My post was specifically referring to the shoes I bought and pitted the company responsible. You’re the one who is generalizing it to include all products.

I was referring to what **Klaatu** said, not your OP.

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