# Goddamn fucking incompetent nursing home

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 10, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184 "2004-12-10T19:05:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/41 "2005-01-05T07:14:05Z")

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What a despicable story. :mad:

I hope your grandfather can handle the grief.

Sue the bastards into the stoneage, hopefully all the way out of business so it doesn’t just get worse for the remaining unlucky residents.

And maybe consider donating the judgement to them too, so they can find more adequate care. In your grandparent’s names.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/42 "2005-01-05T08:36:45Z")

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**Cervaise** , I’m so sorry. Thoughts are with you and your family.

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**Author:** ![Aguecheek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Aguecheek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aguecheek)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/43 "2005-01-05T18:19:10Z")

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Condolences and hugs from both Steph and myself.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/44 "2005-01-05T18:33:15Z")

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Damn, **Cervaise** , I’m so sorry.

Have you contacted the state Whatever Oversight board?

And **SeGate** , I’m absolutely horrifed. For your grandfather to be alone during his last days…I’m in tears. No one should have to go through that.

Good luck, the both of you, in going nuclear on their incompetent asses.

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**Author:** ![35340](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/8baadc/32.png) [@35340](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/35340)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/45 "2005-01-05T18:52:10Z")

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I’m sorry, hon.

Nail.Wall.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/46 "2005-01-05T19:23:04Z")

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Aw man, I’m truly, truly sorry. Please extend our condolences to **Fish** and the rest of your family as well.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/47 "2005-01-05T20:35:52Z")

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Cripes. My condolences to you and your family. And sue the everlivng hell out of the bastards.

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**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/48 "2005-01-05T22:30:22Z")

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I’m very sorry about your loss, **Cervaise**. Have you called the appropriate state licensing board? They’re the source of the deficiency data you linked to earlier. Civil action against the facility is a lengthy process; in the mean time, an immediate call to the State will have examiners on site, looking to substantiate your report. Their findings go on the public record, which should help your case, and will help other people decide whether to trust that facility with _their_ grandparents.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/49 "2005-01-05T23:47:19Z")

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Oh my ogg.

When I was young (26) I worked at the only facility in MICHIGAN that took care of not only the elderly, but those with H.I.V. etc. and the mentaly ill and the pay wasn’t my first issue . I’m not trying to say anyting other than people deserve to be treated with love and compasion till the end ,WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/50 "2005-01-06T00:03:27Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> By the way, it’s only going to get worse for our generations, when there’s no Medicare or Social Security, and the pool of people to work at these places gets seamier and seamier.
> 
> Note to self: die young.
> 
> _Damn_. Too late.

Not if you’re like me and have wisely invested money on your own. Of course this should be impossible, because in the perfect world I wouldn’t have any money to invest because it would be taken by the governemt and given to people who deserve it more than I do.

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/51 "2005-01-06T00:14:26Z")

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I’m so motherfreakin sorry, **Cervaise** - if there’s anything I can do to help, please email me. My family will be thinking about you and sending our best thoughts your way, for you and your family… I’m so sorry.

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/52 "2005-01-06T00:15:40Z")

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God, my stomach is doing turns just reading through this thread. I am so very sorry for your family’s loss, **Cervaise**.

[hijack, but I promise to give it back]

My 86 yr old grandmother is now also in a similarly tenuous situation at a respiratory hospital/lt care facility that she was xferred to from the hospital last week.

My aunt said that the person who came to suction her lungs yesterday ordered my aunt out of the room (something they’ve never done before) and then came out a few minutes later and snapped at her to “get her mother under control.”

My gramma was flailing and wouldn’t let go of my aunts arm. Kept mouthing “please please” and I think she said, “he choked me”… but because if her trach and respirator dealie, she can’t actually talk, she can only mouth words.

As weak as my gramma is, there had to be something terribly wrong for her to react so harshly. They suction her lungs out several times a day, so it’s not like she wasn’t used to the procedure.

Anyhow, I’ve been just fucking sick about it all day and I want to drive to the hospital, locate that jackass and shove his fucking dick through his larynx. Unfortunately I fear that any steps taken to remove this dolt from his position could result in him sneaking into my grammas room and taking it out on her.

So while I’m terribly sorry for your loss, I am so grateful that you have posted this thread and that so many have posted with suggestions to remedy inadequate and possibly malicious healthcare. I’m definitely going to apply all of the advice that I can to our own family nightmare.

You and your dear grandpa are both in my thoughts.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/53 "2005-01-06T01:25:59Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Not if you’re like me and have wisely invested money on your own. Of course this should be impossible, because in the perfect world I wouldn’t have any money to invest because it would be taken by the governemt and given to people who deserve it more than I do.

Nice going – a member suffers a tragic loss, and you decide to turn it into a partisan rant. Dickwad! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/54 "2005-01-06T01:33:01Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Not if you’re like me and have wisely invested money on your own. Of course this should be impossible, because in the perfect world I wouldn’t have any money to invest because it would be taken by the governemt and given to people who deserve it more than I do.

Using your own money to purchase your place in a nursing home will not guarantee that you will not be abused. One can only hope that your loved ones will keep an eye on things. Some jerks do have loved ones, don’t they?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/55 "2005-01-06T01:56:23Z")

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**Hyde** , get the hell out of this thread already.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/56 "2005-01-06T02:56:24Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Dickwad!

Par for his course. When I saw him as Last Poster, I expected no less.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2005, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-fucking-incompetent-nursing-home/279184/57 "2005-01-06T04:39:57Z")

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No worries, folks–there is no guarantee that **Hyde** would ever have enough money to pay for long term care–LTC costs a great deal of money. Given his antipathy to any subsidies, he will most certainly return that Medicare money to the Gment, as a charitable contribution…or will he?

And there is no guarantee that rich old guys won’t be neglected as well. \<evil laugh here\>  
Sorry for the hijack.

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