# Goddamn I hate San Francisco **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 6, 2005, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023 "2005-04-06T12:09:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/121 "2005-04-09T08:26:51Z")
I was born here and have never lived anywhere else, so I’m entitled to bitch all I want. Besides, Muni’s safety record really is quite horrific. [Death, Maiming, Money, and Muni](http://www.sfweekly.com/issues/2003-08-06/feature.html) ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/122 "2005-04-09T16:38:25Z")
> [@Mr. Moto](#): > > They come because San Francisco used to give them cash payments, and surrounding jurisdictions did not. Subsidize an unpleasant behavior in this way, and it’s unsurprising that you’ll see more of it. Why in the world would they do that? It seems like the exact opposite of what you’d want to do. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/123 "2005-04-09T16:40:48Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > _deep shudder_ Please. Once again: _San_ Francisco. NOT _Frisco_. Yeah! **I** live in the real Frisco! (ducks and runs) ---
**Author:** ![ignatalious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@ignatalious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ignatalious)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/124 "2011-06-18T01:47:55Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I went to SF last summer. I was super excited to get there, and I was never repulsed by a city more than I was by San Francisco. It seems like everything I hate about New York liberal dishonesty. > > I grew up in New Mexico and have lived my adult life in New York City, and SF is anathema to both of those things. > > All I could see was homeless crack addicts shitting on pristine sidewalks, planned gentrification, and people who wanted so badly to be superior to the rest of the country. > > I don’t know if my hate for SF is in any way rational, but there was an enforced calm in SF that went against the grain of my soul. It was like aristocratic pretension that pretends it is populist. There are few things I hate more than that. > > So many people talk about San Francisco like it is the greatest city on Earth, I feel like it’s the asshole of humanity. To me it was the Mecca of passive aggression. My friend who grew up in SF, but lives in LA because he can’t stand SF told me that all the liberal hypocrite holier than thous are transplants and not natives. The one I met and got into an argument with was from Charleston SC, so that seems to be true. > > Anyway, I fucking hate San Francisco, it represents all that is ugly about liberalism, IMO. > > Erek > (I’m not conservative, there are many things I hate about conservatism that are not exhibited by San Francisco) I really LOVE what you say about it. I have lived in SF for 7 years, went to Europe for 3 months and felt my life improve immensely - feeling alive again! Now that I am back in SF I cannot wait to leave. It is beyond pretentious, stupid, clicky, incredibly rude and yes, the mecca for passive-aggressiveness. PUKE. Very well said - thank you for your honesty. I think most people in SF are in Serious denial about it flaws - oh wait - the passive aggressive mafia will not allow anyone to utter a negative word about SF. ---
**Author:** ![ignatalious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@ignatalious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ignatalious)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/125 "2011-06-18T01:49:45Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > San Fran pays their bums. They get a monthly allowance, and yet San Fran officials can’t seem to figure out why they have so many bums. Go figure. hahahaha - SF is THE enabling city. ---
**Author:** ![ignatalious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@ignatalious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ignatalious)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/126 "2011-06-18T01:54:16Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > I can’t imagine a tissue would be necessary for someone who makes a habit of pooing on the street. > > I’m not trying to imply anything about your brother, but if I spent my time hanging out in a BART station, I figure I’d probably be the one _doing_ the shitting. a friend of mine told me she saw a bum squat to poop on the sidewalk, then wiped himself with his hand then smeared it on the wall. Some parts of SF are gorgeous - GG park but That amongst other things make the city vile IMO. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/127 "2011-06-18T01:54:59Z")
Welcome to the SDMB, **ignatalious**. I look forward to you becoming a valuable and experienced member of this community. _braaaaiiiinnnnssss_ ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/128 "2011-06-18T02:14:22Z")
> [@ignatalious](#): > > I really LOVE what you say about it. I have lived in SF for 7 years, went to Europe for 3 months and felt my life improve immensely - feeling alive again! I have no doubt that the citizens of San Francisco experienced a similar renaissance during your absence. Incidentally, please learn how to read a time stamp. This thread is six years old. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/129 "2011-06-18T03:00:34Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Hey, if you were a bum, where would you go-- SF or NYC? [LA!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBOQiMxwk1o) ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/130 "2011-06-18T05:50:12Z")
But San Francisco has the best zombies! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/131 "2011-06-18T06:02:04Z")
Ha, this thread reminded me what a dipshit MSWAS was. I actually like SF, for me it, Portland and Seattle are the highlights of the west coast. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/132 "2011-06-18T18:21:18Z")
😉 > [@Lobohan](#): > > Ha, this thread reminded me what a dipshit MSWAS was. > > I actually like SF, for me it, Portland and Seattle are the highlights of the west coast. You got to be shittin’ me! Big Sur, the Redwoods? That’s the west coast to me. That’s peace on this shit hole of a planet,😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/133 "2011-06-18T19:50:29Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > But San Francisco has the best zombies! Yeah, in SF the zombies have more fashion sense. That sloughing skin tone with this open air femur ? I don’t \*think \*so, girlfriend. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/134 "2011-06-18T20:02:27Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Yeah, in SF the zombies have more fashion sense. That sloughing skin tone with this open air femur ? I don’t \*think \*so, girlfriend. Plus the cool sea air really makes them you know, _take their time_, with decomposition. I was down in Louisiana after Katrina and those zombies were spilling open after two days. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/135 "2011-06-18T23:02:32Z")
Can we PLEASE unban **mswas**? Its totally unfair and a result of his anti-liberal criticism of the fair (gay) city of San Francisco… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/136 "2011-06-18T23:54:17Z")
> [@ignatalious](#): > > a friend of mine told me she saw a bum squat to poop on the sidewalk, then wiped himself with his hand then smeared it on the wall. A lack of publicly available bathrooms is a problem I’ve heard. Apparently some people have the idea that the homeless will magically just stop needing to excrete waste if you forbid them access to sanitary facilities. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/137 "2011-06-19T00:01:27Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > 😉 > You got to be shittin’ me! Big Sur, the Redwoods? > > That’s the west coast to me. > > That’s peace on this shit hole of a planet,😉 Meh. Too many trees. I’ve never trusted trees. I’m pretty sure they’re up to something. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/138 "2011-06-19T00:08:47Z")
Spoken like a true cleric of Thor! ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/139 "2011-06-19T00:19:02Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Meh. Too many trees. I’ve never trusted trees. I’m pretty sure they’re up to something. Durkon? ETA: dangit, I guess I should have refreshed the thread before I posted. ---
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023/140 "2011-06-19T03:04:08Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Incidentally, please learn how to read a time stamp. This thread is six years old. Who gives a damn? How is that a good reason to be an asshole to a new user? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamn-i-hate-san-francisco/298023.md?page=8)