I can’t imagine a tissue would be necessary for someone who makes a habit of pooing on the street.
I’m not trying to imply anything about your brother, but if I spent my time hanging out in a BART station, I figure I’d probably be the one doing the shitting.
Unfortunately, that proposition was overturned as unconstitutional. :rolleyes: Nevermind that it would have provided places to sleep (with shower facilities) as well as medical services and food services. That’s not what’s important, here.
They do have bathrooms at most, if not all, of the stations. Some people just don’t want to bother. And my brother gets to escort them out or to jail, whatever the case may be.
Ummm, and isn’t SF the city that came up with the wonderful idea of supplying the homeless with shopping carts? :rolleyes: I suppose trying to address the issue as to why they’re homeless and trying to help them dig out ouf that hole never really crossed their minds. As a former social worker, I wanted to gouge out my eyes with a garden rake after hearing that one.
None of the BART bathrooms have been open since September 11, as far as I know.
I don’t live there anymore, but I visit a few times a year, and I’ve never seen an open bathroom since September 11.
I was going to dipute the OP’s points, but unless every other city in the world were completely devoid of the trouble she describes, it certainly sounds like trolling more than anything else.
As an added benefit, by not disputing the OP, they won’t return, it’ll be one less close-minded douchebag I’ll never have to deal with encounter.
It sure is a hell of a lot better than that shithole NYC.
All these things may be true, but the mayor sure is a fox. Mmmmmm.
Never before have I appreciated Boise more than I do now. Ever seen the Boise housing projects? It’s four houses. Nice ones, too.
Although mlerose has me wondering why the hell they’d shut down the BART bathrooms after 9/11. Did they recieve intel that terrorists were going to flush cherry bombs down all the toilets at once?
Ain’t he just? I drool every time I see him. Money, looks and power.
He just got divorced, incidentally.
I’d like to know where you got that information. I’ve seen more cops making a homeless person empty the cart and take it back.
There is no place in San Francisco that gives away shopping carts to anyone.
Talk about urban legand.
Oddly enough, the dirtyness is all within the area the tourists visit most: The area around Union Square, into the Tenderloin and between SOMA and North Beach. The Castro can be a bit dirty as well.
The city actually only stinks around the areas the bums panhandle. They panhandle there because well… that’s where your average tourist is going to end up.
A few friends of mine live out in Noe Valley, which is clean, doesn’t smell like piss, doesn’t have crack-heads hanging out, and no one shits on the sidewalks there.
All cities have their negative sides, but i wonder, has the OP actually really spent time around the City? Doesn’t really sound like it.
I suppose if you’re unable to actually ignore any of that, you’d have a bad time. Most people who like the city don’t really hang out around the tourist/shopping districts at all, because they know that you get hassled by bums and you see things like shitting on sidewalks. Of course, i’ve been to San Francisco enough times to ignore most of that.
Jervoise:
Really? Ruby Sky gets excellent reviews. Universe, when it was still going was a HUGE draw, and always had a buzz and atmosphere. The End Up is the spot where most of the club kids end up and is always an excellent time. Sugar at the Stud is excellent for good, deep house music. At least for the gay crowd the two places for clubbing/bar hopping is the Castro and SOMA.
In fact, a friend from Philadelphia who used to promote clubs there actually said many are excellent in San Francisco that he’s been to.
Then again, i take a city for what it is, and can have an excellent time anywhere.
What beach did you go to? Ocean beach? What time of year did you visit? Summer is always foggy and overcast. Spring and fall are the sunniest times of year such as right now. I can’t comment on Golden Gate park, because i’ve never really been in it, but did you at all visit the conservatory of flowers?
I ride BART everyday. The bathrooms are open eveyday.
And as is evidenced by this response above, i wasn’t paying any attention at all. My bad. :smack:
But, I still wonder, WHAT clubs specifically did you visit?
My guess from what you wrote is you were at either the Cafe or Badlands (Both of which I can’t stand, i’d rather drink witht he bears at the Lonestar). Of course, I could totally be wrong.
Well, I love SF, though I don’t love everything about it. I suspect I might not love it so much if I had to live there there (I live in Oakland), but I love driving through the city at night (not on the weekends) and there is a ton to do there that I enjoy: tons of movies first and foremost, plus plays, concerts, museums, and restaurants. I don’t typically shop there, so I manage to avoid a lot of the usual crowds and tourists. Plus, it’s gorgeous. I’m there at least once a week (usually to catch a film) and can never imagine tiring of the place.
Seconded.
On an unrelated topic, I visited NYC once and it smelled like piss and I saw bums and drugs!! And people who acted superior to me - me, a tourist!
I can only conclude that my limited involvement with a few people during my short visit was representative of the entire city and its peoples and I therefore fucking hate it. :rolleyes:
Unfortunately I have no cite. I recall hearing it on a local news station a couple of years ago and after the “story” broke locally the topic hit the local talk shows. I’ve never heard anything else to substantiate the claim. If it is, indeed, false I cannot tell you how relieved I am. I know people in this country are capable of some pretty ridiculous things but that one almost seems too over the top to be true.
Another Cincinnatian checking in. I visited San Francisco a few years back and thoroughly enjoyed it. Didn’t notice more bums than the average city, but did think their signs were more creative:
“I need money for beer.”
“Breast Implant money.”
Of course, I didn’t contribute to their worthy causes, but I gave them a bonus point for being honest.
If you are a tourist we are superior to you.
fucking tourists 
The OP is absolutely correct. San Francisco is the Worst Place On Earth, full of horrible, stinky, crack-addicted liberals. I recommend the OP stay as far away as possible, for his own sake. Farther, even. Maybe even in another country entirely, just to be on the safe side.
I suppose it’s too late to convince him that the same holds true for the SDMB?