I really don’t understand this bars closing at 2AM thing. Here in New York people don’t even SHOW UP to parties til like 1 AM.
Erek
That’s 5am, actually – West Coast bars observe East Coast time, since New York people are so cool in everything that they do. (Can you IMAGINE going to a party at 1am?? My stars!)
Oh, it’s not just Frisco, believe me.
I can’t go ANYWHERE without saying “let me tell you why NY is so much better than here…”
Including, oddly enough, New York.
deep shudder Please. Once again: San Francisco. NOT Frisco. You nasty, getting-away-from-the-snow-and-cluttering-up-my-beautiful-city tourist. 
I’ve never grasped the concept of travelling anyplace simply to complain about how much better home is. Honestly, if you don’t like it, don’t go! Stay home. Then we’ll all be happy.
You call this a knish?!? And where’s my Cel-Ray Tonic, fer chrissakes?
In Noo Yawk, if ya get laid back, we run ya ovah!
– Uke, who likes Frisco perfectly well, especially the reaction he gets when he says “Frisco”
Despite living here my entire life, I’ve never understood why that particular abbreviation is so hated. Any insights?
Frisco is what you get when you deep-fry Fresno in Crisco. Any references to SF as such simply presumes that you got lost reading the map and took a left turn at Stockton.
Those of you who live in San Francisco might be interested to know that Joe Montana graduated from my high school.
My high school is probably unique in that it can boast two Hall of Famers as graduates.
San Franciscan: "You can use Crisco for frying, too?
When you stop saying “the City”, we’ll stop saying “frisco”. Until then, we do it because it annoys those from Frisco/
exACTly
To harken back to the golden days:
“Frisco, frisco, frisco - as much as I like”
Alternate slur: “San Francrisco” to celebrate its greasy disgustingness.
I’ve always associated people who say “Frisco” as someone trying very hard and failing to be incredibly cool. “Hey, baby! You’re from Frisco? Cool!” (I’m not, btw, I’m a bit further south) Usually wearing alot of hair grease, a gold chain, and a nasty polyester shirt with the top two buttons unbuttoned for maximum chest hair exposure. Ew.
Ironic that in San Francisco the drivers get a whole lot more pissed off if you jaywalk, in New York it’s just par for the course, so it works out well. I had drivers get downright aggressive in San Fran when I crossed and they were far enough away that I could get past easily if they maintained their current course and speed, but they got mad.
Seems like you’re reading too much into that expression. Maybe it’s changed since I grew up in the Bay Area, but we just said “the city” to distinguish it from the suburbs, not to imply any exalted status. As in, “Let’s have dinner in the city tonight”. Similar to the expression “going downtown”.
I have to say that I fall into the love SF camp. I’ve been in Los Angeles for almost 10 years now and there’s no comparison. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve grown to enjoy living in L.A. but it’s just a large city. Lots of cool things going on but everything seems really fake.
SF feels like a living, breathing entity. Sure it’s dirty in parts (Chinatown jumps to mind immediately) but the air’s clean.
The history is incredible. The diversity is astonishing. The mass transit is one of the best I’ve ever experienced. The whole of SF takes up 49 sq. miles. Staggering when you think about it.
I’ve spend many nights walking around Union Square, the Tenderloin, the Haight, etc. and never felt threatened.
You notice the homeless a lot more because everything is so concentrated. I live in Glendale (right outside of L.A.) and I deal with homeless people everyday as I did when I lived in Austin and Okla. City.
When I’m in SF, I’m reminded of Woody Allen’s love of New York in his films Manhattan and Annie Hall. I feel the same love for a city that he has in those films. There’s something in the air.
I can understand any negative feelings that someone might have about San Francisco. It’s huge, noisy, claustrophobic, smug, full of tourists, parking’s terrible. I see that a lot of people write that it’s a nice place to visit but wouldn’t want to live there. I can’t argue with that. Moving there means that you have to make sacrifices and I can’t say that I’m ready to do such a thing. But I am pondering living there when and if I get the chance. I love to live there for at least part of my life. Feel the same way about New York. If I can live in L.A. for this long, I certainly can try and make the jump to live in SF, at least for awhile.
Frisco. Heh.
I am reminded of the “frat” joke- don’t call your fraternity a frat, you wouldn’t call your country a cunt!
Obviously a joke started by non-Canadians.
I don’t know about that. Muni has extensive service, true, but the drivers are notoriously bad.
Try to get somewhere without a car in Southern California, then see if you still want to complain about the Bay Area. :eek: