# Goddamnit, I am not a fucking novelty object. Or, Fuck You, Bravo. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2003, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332 "2003-07-14T07:13:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332/61 "2003-07-16T13:13:28Z")
ALL RIGHT! I witnessed the show under dispute last night and hereby repost my review to hopefully end all dispute. Summary: Its really quite a good show, with unique twists beyond the five gay men thing, that doesn’t take itself too seriously at all. > [@](#): > > I wanted to hate Bravo’s new decorating show. I desperately wanted to detest it and run from the room. I was only watching it, after all, for the same reason people are fascinated by car wrecks. The blood, the screams, the endless schadenfreude… but then I realized it did somehow work. > > The premise for those of you out of the loop is five gay men are given one day with a straight guy, and in that day they must improve his style in cooking, grooming, decoration, culture, and clothing. Each of these categories is covered by one of the “Fab 5”. The point is not to totally destroy what basic style was already there, but rather to show better ways such style could be executed. At the end of the day, each straight man has listed an event they wish to hold/be at (opening of their art show, surprise party for wife), and they’re let loose to finish preparing and hosting it to see how much as been learned. Unlike What Not to Wear, its completely hands-off at that point. > > What mostly had me wincing during the commercials was a fear that these guys were simply going to be catty bitches intent on witty insults more than actual advice. What had some other people wincing was the fact that they all seemed to be flaming. Honestly, I can say my fear, and probably the latter fear as well, can be laid to rest. While occassionally making dry comments, each of these guys does seem to want to improve the life of their victim. Each dispenses advice in their own style, but always with intent to improve instead of tear down. And the only one flaming in the “classic” sense is Carson the fashion guru, but its all so worth it. > > If they had taken themselves too seriously, refrained from being slightly over the top, the show would never have worked. It would have been pompous and annoying, with only the original twist to redeem even slightly. As things stand, I think its a unique, lively, helpful, and often amusing show that everyone should at least check out if they have access. > > Now to see what happens with Boy meets Boy… the war between eye candy and sheer disgusting freak show mentality… ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332/62 "2003-07-16T13:30:56Z")
I only caught ten minutes of it (_The Godfather II_ came on at 10:15). The guy that was removing dude’s clothes from his closet with a pair of tongs? Priceless. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332/63 "2003-07-16T13:45:50Z")
I watched both episodes and enjoyed them both thoroughly. And Kyan the Grooming Guy is my new husband so the rest of you bitches just _back off_! ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332/64 "2003-07-16T14:31:15Z")
Sorry, **Otto** , I saw him first, he’s MINE! The show was nowhere near as bad as I thought it might be. It wasn’t so much about gay content or stereotyping as it was just a “makeover” show for guys. And I might have to do a three-way with Kyan and the woofy, blonde painter. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332/65 "2003-07-16T16:15:23Z")
Like I told **Priam** in the Cafe Society thread, anyone who wasn’t actively defending the show before it aired is DIS-qualified from Kyan’s sweet sweet love. Kyan is mine all mine so you need to step off! \ I will, however, consider allowing you, Butch and my adored Kyan to join me in a fourgy. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332/66 "2003-07-16T17:27:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Are there any butch gay men on TV? That’s sort of the point of this thread, is it not? > > … > And as noted, the most admirable gay man on TV is the flamingly nelly Emmett on QAF. Show me an equally admirable butch gay men on that show, or any show. Nelly gay men are the primary depiction of gayness in the media.\*\* Not to disagree with the larger point, just to address this small one…but… **Ben**? ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332/67 "2003-07-16T18:34:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JuanitaTech \* > \*\*…The guy that was removing dude’s clothes from his closet with a pair of tongs? Priceless. \*\* Boiling the guy’s dirty jockstrap in a sauce pan - hysterical. Paraphrasing “Can you believe it, it’s filty…Could make some kind of soup with it…It’s even got it’s own soy sauce, oh no strike that, boy sauce.” ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332/68 "2003-07-16T18:49:47Z")
This show was high-fucking-larious. I damn near pissed my pants I was laughing so hard. Oh, and the guys that changed his entire pad in a few hours put everyone from Trading Spaces to shame. My favorite line “Look at that - ALL his friends have long hair. It’s like a cult! They’re Branch Davidians!” ---
**Author:** ![DogMom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@DogMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DogMom)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332/69 "2003-07-17T18:30:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 2trew \* > \*\*Whoa, I just parsed that last post, and if there’s anybody out there I didn’t offend, annoy, or generally piss off, let me know. > \*\* hey! You didn’t offend, annoy, or generally piss ME off! I would say I’m offended but that kind of defeats the point, doesn’t it… Kinda creeped me out, though, I thought you were describing my marriage, which made me wonder where around my house you were hiding to peek in the windows, especially since I don’t have those conveninently-located large camouflage bushes right under all open windows. (Honest, “have you seen my shirt” is generally answered with “yeah, it’s in the washer going through the last rinse cycle.” And, “beer run” is a perfectly acceptable answer to “what are you thinking”. It better be - I’m the last one that used it! Though I think it sounded more like, “is there beer in the fridge?”) but then again I was wondering how to get those guys to my house to educate ME on a makeover…DogDad understands more about color matching, what clothes look good in which occasion, and overall room compositon than I _ever_ will. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goddamnit-i-am-not-a-fucking-novelty-object-or-fuck-you-bravo/188332.md?page=3)