# Gods, do I hate this man. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 20, 2003, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797 "2003-03-20T13:28:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/21 "2003-03-20T18:15:49Z")
Define murder. ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/22 "2003-03-20T18:52:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jerrybear \* > \*\* > Angela Davis would be another great choice, as would _Cynthia McKinney._ > \*\* Thankfully, since this is the Pit, I can comfortably say that is the worst idea ever expressed on this message board. ---
**Author:** ![Toaster52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@Toaster52](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toaster52)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/23 "2003-03-20T19:06:05Z")
And of course if President Bush had been caught looking solemn, even tired and depressed, people would be on his case for hiding his true feelings. “Geez, what a clown!!! I bet deep inside he just wanted to dance for joy, pumping his fist.” The man cannot win against some people. ---
**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/24 "2003-03-20T19:13:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CuriousCanuck \* > \*\*The worst part was the fact that the cameras werer on hime 7 seconds early and you could hear the producer-type counting him down to 0 so he could start his speech. For the 7…6… part of the count he was wiping a smirk off his face. Everyone I was watching this with saw it. Fuck you Bush. Asking us to have respect for the lives of your people, then fucking have some yourself. \*\* I saw the pre-camera countdown. However, I saw no such smirk. But I guess you can see bunny rabbits in the clouds if you look hard enough for them, too. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/25 "2003-03-20T19:41:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jerrybear \* > \*\*I like your thinking, Janie! > > Winona LaDuke (Green Party) for President in 2004! > > That is, if Ralph Nader does not get the Green nomination again. I would be equally happy with either Winona or Ralph as Pres. > > Angela Davis would be another great choice, as would Cynthia McKinney. > > We need to get rid of Crooked King George, but we need to replace him with someone who is truly better, not just the “lesser of two evils.” \*\* Great idea, Split the fucking vote for a candidate who can’t hope to get any more than 10-15%, Skewing the liberal vote so you’re ensured having Bush get re-elected. Smoooooooooooooth, Jerry. Sam ---
**Author:** ![NutWrench](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nutwrench/32/20193_2.png) [@NutWrench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NutWrench)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/26 "2003-03-20T21:47:41Z")
I think an American President shouldn’t act like a thirteen-year-old when discussing his foreign policy. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/27 "2003-03-20T22:21:11Z")
> [@](#): > > What kind of a fucking punk pumps his fist when he’s getting ready to murder people? What a worthless piece of shit this guy is. What kind of a fucking punk looks for the absolute worst in people just to validate his own small-minded bigotry? What a worthless piece of shit that guy would be. ---
**Author:** ![hlujarn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hlujarn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hlujarn)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/28 "2003-03-20T22:29:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\*Define murder. \*\* This guy sits behind a desk picks up a telephone, smiling, winking, orders a strike. People DIE. He doesn’t have to look in to the eyes of his victims. That man is a coward and a murderer. FUCK YOU BUSH ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/29 "2003-03-20T22:41:21Z")
So, you’re calling Abe Lincoln a murderer. Wait, he didn’t have a telephone so that’s OK… ---
**Author:** ![Corky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b782af/32.png) [@Corky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corky)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/30 "2003-03-20T22:42:36Z")
I’m only surprise that anyone would expect Bush to act in a thoughtful caring way. It never bothered him when he was Governer of Texas to remain impassive to deaths. Why would he change for a bunch of Arabs? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/31 "2003-03-20T22:46:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Slacker \* > \*\*With all of the valid reasons to criticize George W, you choose to have a problem with a half-assed account of his pre-address preperations? \*\* My feelings exactly. I didn’t see any smirk being eradicated during the pre-speech countdown either. He doesn’t make a good appearance on camera, but I don’t micro-interpret every gesture, facial twitch and mannerism to arrive at my opinions of Administration policy. Substantive issues provide all the ammunition you could want. And lest we forget, Clinton was not exactly the King of Gravitas, either. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/32 "2003-03-20T23:03:27Z")
Anyone who feels **good** about going to war shouldn’t be let anywhere near the controls. I don’t care what gestures or expressions the president makes, but anyone happy to be at war isn’t fit to lead a boy scout troup, much let alone the most powerful nation on earth. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/33 "2003-03-20T23:17:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lucki Chaarms \* > \*\*So you think it’s acceptable for our president to do his little victory dance just before the cameras come on and he tells his country that we’re going to war? Do you not find it appalling that he acts this way when delivering a message that should be one of the hardest things for any leader to do? > > What a complete prick. I hate him. > > LC \*\* He came on camera after we have already been at war for a while. And why should it be ‘one of the hardest things any leader has to do’ when they are leading the nation in doing the right thing? He damn well better be feeling good. This is not a time for panty-waste presidents. Ah well, you’ll get over it, someday. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/34 "2003-03-20T23:19:46Z")
Has the level of discourse hit rock-bottom yet? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/35 "2003-03-20T23:24:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Brutus \* > \*\* Ah well, you’ll get over it, someday. \*\* Yep, Inaguration Day, 2005, watching Random Democrat getting sworn in. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/36 "2003-03-20T23:25:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*Yep, Inaguration Day, 2005, watching Random Democrat getting sworn in. \*\* In Iraq, maybe. In the good ol’ US of A? Not a chance, skewed polls aside. Or…Wanna bet? ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/37 "2003-03-21T02:01:19Z")
Cythnia ‘I am a Queen and you will treat me as such’ McKinney? Her?! For cryin fuckin out loud tell me you’re kidding? If a monarch isn’t what you want, she’s a poor choice. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/38 "2003-03-21T02:50:38Z")
The fact that Bush pumped his fist is the least of my concerns about the man. I’m not even upest about it. It’s kind of expected. And this isn’t a, “What a dickhead he is” post. I’m only saying, I disagree with his whole handling of this matter and the fact that he’s pumped up about it only seems logical. ---
**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/39 "2003-03-21T03:35:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Brutus \* > \*\*He came on camera after we have already been at war for a while. And why should it be ‘one of the hardest things any leader has to do’ when they are leading the nation in doing the right thing? He damn well better be feeling good. This is not a time for panty-waste presidents. > > Ah well, you’ll get over it, someday. \*\* Well, considering that any CIVILIZED human being would consider war to be one of the most horrific things that humanity has come up with in our time on the planet… I understand that sometimes people are not able to avoid going to war. That is tragic, but a GOOD leader would understand that going to war represents a failure on their part. This dick is fucking celebrating, and you are celebrating his unflinching determination to fucking kill people. Fuck you both. A lot. LC ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797/40 "2003-03-21T03:38:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lucki Chaarms \* > \*\*Well, considering that any CIVILIZED human being would consider war to be one of the most horrific things that humanity has come up with in our time on the planet… > > I understand that sometimes people are not able to avoid going to war. That is tragic, but a GOOD leader would understand that going to war represents a failure on their part. This dick is fucking celebrating, and you are celebrating his unflinching determination to fucking kill people. Fuck you both. A lot.\*\* Holy shit. I hope you wear a helmet when you watch CNN. I’d hate for you to end up with a concussion in a violent knee-jerking incident. Did you actually see this happen? No? Then shut the fuck up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-do-i-hate-this-man/162797.md?page=3)