# God's Tebow-bias

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 13, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386 "2012-01-13T13:34:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/81 "2012-01-15T04:02:48Z")

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I didn’t read this whole thread to see if this has been posted already, but even if it has, it’s so good that it deserves to be posted again:

> **[Did Jesus Intervene?](https://www.buzzfeed.com/rgauldin/did-jesus-intervene-a-guide-to-tebow-15ze)**
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> Jesus is a busy guy, and doesn't have time to get involved in everything! Here's a simple guide illustrating where he decides to influence earthly affairs.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/82 "2012-01-15T04:12:30Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> He’s down by 35 points in the third quarter.
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> Should he somehow pull it off, I’d consider that proof of divine intervention

Unfortunately for Tebow, JC has already told Tebow he’s on his own this week. See my link above.

(OK, so that was actually Jimmy Fallon putting words in Jesus’ mouth to the tune of “Space Oddity.” But it works for me. :))

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/83 "2012-01-15T05:49:35Z")

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> [@jshore](#):
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> I didn’t read this whole thread to see if this has been posted already, but even if it has, it’s so good that it deserves to be posted again:
> 
> [Did Jesus Intervene?](http://www.buzzfeed.com/rgauldin/did-jesus-intervene-a-guide-to-tebow-15ze)

Gratuitous Nickelback hate is always appreciated!

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/84 "2012-01-15T06:13:05Z")

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I would like to open my doors for converts from Christianity since proof was had tonight that there is no god. 😃

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/85 "2012-01-15T06:14:43Z")

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I was just having a couple beers with Jesus, and he was laughing his ass off watching this game.

He said something about hubris, and then staggered off.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/86 "2012-01-15T06:20:21Z")

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After 2000 years, the boy still can’t hold his liquor.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/87 "2012-01-15T10:16:27Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Gratuitous Nickelback hate is always appreciated!

Nickelback hate is never gratuitous.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/88 "2012-01-15T10:40:11Z")

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ok new poll: how many people think Tom Brady IS jesus…?

(lots of funny posts all in a row, you guys).

marley, i dunno what to tell you bud. you misunderstand like, _everything_. you’re one of those “can’t see the forest for all the trees” kind of people.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/89 "2012-01-15T10:46:08Z")

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> I was just having a couple beers with Jesus, and he was laughing his ass off watching this game.
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> He said something about hubris, and then staggered off.

1. if I were Jesus, i’d help Teebz out every game in a clearly miraculous fashion, get him to the superbowl, then hands off. it’d be like that trust fall thing. “i gotcha. just fall. see? i gotcha. fall again. see? gotcha. fall again! (crash).”

2. back when i was a hardcore christian, i found it fun to debate semantical aspects of religion with other christians. constantly, the convo devolved to the other person saying “well, God told me. i talk to Him.”

i’d hold up my finger for “wait just a second,” mutter to myself, then reply “jesus just said shut up.”

anyway, back to the original question–i’m starting to think i’m not going to find a good answer here.  
womp wah.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/90 "2012-01-15T13:12:24Z")

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> [@Dr.Colossus](#):
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> ok new poll: how many people think Tom Brady IS jesus…?

I don’t know, let’s check the scriptures. Brady gained 509 total yards, and[Mark 5:09](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%205:09&version=NIV)gives a forboding revelation about who Brady really is:

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> Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?”  
> “My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.”

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/91 "2012-01-15T13:35:04Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I don’t know, let’s check the scriptures. Brady gained 509 total yards, and[Mark 5:09](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%205:09&version=NIV)gives a forboding revelation about who Brady really is::eek:

Now you are frightening me.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/92 "2012-01-15T14:16:50Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> After 2000 years, the boy still can’t hold his liquor.

You try holding stuff after nails were pounded through your wrists.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/93 "2012-01-15T14:25:55Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> You try holding stuff after nails were pounded through your wrists.

It’s really frustrating when He tries to swim.

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**Author:** ![BSweet69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BSweet69](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BSweet69)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/94 "2012-01-15T15:06:43Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Each second of prayer is considered a prayer-unit, aka a PU.
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> God simply adds up the PU from each team, ignores the millions of PU from thousands of starving victimized children, then makes sure the team with the higher PU wins.
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> Of course, if a team has any Muslim or atheist or closeted gay players, that offsets some or all the PU of the team.

+1 and a thumbs up for the well-played sarcasm!

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**Author:** ![BSweet69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BSweet69](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BSweet69)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/95 "2012-01-15T15:14:19Z")

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So, I guess that “prayer” thing doesn’t really work, then? Poor Tebow! Now he has to figure out why God is punishing him! Perhaps a sacrificial lamb? Or…his first-born son? That seems to be a deity fave!

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**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/96 "2012-01-15T15:21:31Z")

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> [@BSweet69](#):
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> So, I guess that “prayer” thing doesn’t really work, then? Poor Tebow! Now he has to figure out why God is punishing him! Perhaps a sacrificial lamb? Or…his first-born son? That seems to be a deity fave!

exactly what i was thinking. 'WHERE’S YOUR GOD NOW?!"

but seriously, i suspect everyone will say “God has a plan. and winning against the pats just wasn’t part of it.”

i think praying believer types are not totally illogical. i really wish some would come give their rationale here.

i’m really seeking to understand. i think most will say they don’t know why God didn’t want it–who are we to know the mind of God? but these same people will attribute any victory or improbable positive outcome to Him. they “understand His mind” when it’s a good thing, but ‘can’t know His mind’ when it goes poorly.

and another thing–if 43% think God helped Tebow win, do they think God helped Brady win?

because the implication seems to be that Brady is skilled enough to win without God–but Tebow needs deistic power-ups. it’s a massive insult to 'Bow’s skillz.  
43% believe Tebow isn’t good enough to win on his own…

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/97 "2012-01-15T15:27:27Z")

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As was pointed out in another thread elsewhere, the kid did make it to the playoffs in his first season as a starting QB. That doesn’t happen often. But Brady and the Pats are odds-on favorites to go all the way. It isn’t surprising they won.

But, whatever entity (if there is one) that created the Universe just doesn’t care for American Football. Cricket? Maybe.  
But not NFL.  
How do I know?  
heh heh heh  
If I told you, I’d have to kill you.

Maybe that should be my new catchphrase!

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/98 "2012-01-15T15:37:31Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> It’s really frustrating when He tries to swim.

But the little show-off never does ! It’s always woooh look at me, I can walk on water…

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/99 "2012-01-16T02:49:15Z")

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> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> …Brady and the Pats are odds-on favorites to go all the way.

No, they’re not. They aren’t even odds-on favorites _today_. Current futures odds for the Pats to win the Super Bowl are 5 to 4.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gods-tebow-bias/609386/100 "2012-01-16T04:50:02Z")

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> [@Dr.Colossus](#):
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> marley, i dunno what to tell you bud. you misunderstand like, _everything_. you’re one of those “can’t see the forest for all the trees” kind of people.

He’s an admin. It’s his job. 😉

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> It’s really frustrating when He tries to swim.

Swim? He doesn’t walk?

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