Even worse are the muppets who think that whenever their debate opponent mentions Hitler, they’ve somehow “won” the debate, via “Godwin’s Law”, as if it’s some kind of rule to referee debates with. Comparisons with Hitler and the Nazis are sometimes not only apt but the most relevant comparison!
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For God’s sake, it was a joke, a mere exercise in memetics
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Sometimes its like having someone shouting “Newtoned!” every time an apple drops. Neither law has to be called out for us to realise it’s been applied.
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During disputations in medieval England, the over-the-top comparison of any minor issue to the wholesale land-title and social-class shifts attendant on the Norman Conquest and the harsh rule of William the Conqueror, was nknown as violating Godwinson’s Law.
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Traditionally, it Harolded the end of the discussion.
[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF] This was the final straw for me. I hereby propose Dave’s Law: The first person who invokes Godwin’s Law anywhere, under any circumstances, is a pinhead.
For God’s sake, it was a joke, a mere exercise in memetics. Stop being retarded about it and just say Hitler or Nazis if that’s what you mean. Oooh, I said it, I must be the loser! :rolleyes:
Morons. All of you “Godwinizers”, to a person, are too stupid for words.
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Preach it Adolf! If you buy me another pint, I might just see where you’re coming from.
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For God’s sake, it was a joke, a mere exercise in memetics.
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If you propose that it is memetics (a mutating self replicator in cultural evolution), then nature will have its way and we are powerless to stop this.
Unless you really meant that it was Godwin’s creation…
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You think it’s bad now? Imagine how bad it got during strategy briefings in WWII
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You bum - I wanted to be the one to link to that!!
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Anyway, Godwin’s Law can easily be sidestepped by invoking Stalin, Pol Pot or any number of governing sociopaths.
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But that would require knowing a little bit about world history. It’s so much easier just to invoke Hitler or Nazis when Bush does something repellent, or you get a ticket for overdue parking.
Besides, you hardly ever see a picture of Suharto with a little toothbrush mustache.
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Besides, you hardly ever see a picture of Suharto with a little toothbrush mustache.
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You hardly ever used to see a picture of a smiley-face with a toothbrush moustache, before somebody decided to take pity on Jonah Goldberg.
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You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair . . .
Just as I’m feeling smug about being the first one in the thread with a tired Office Space reference, lots of people like to feel smug that they know what Godwin’s Law is and that they get to use it in a convo. We do it all the time, with all sorts of stuff. We love to feel hip and in the know and all that. Here, we’ve always loved to torture to death our little inside jokes: bring pie, Og, Gaudere’s Law, Manny’s Missing Money, etc. ad nauseum. It’s funny for a while, and as long as we’re still on the uphill slope of the gag, we’re in like Flynn. We made a hip reference in hopes of appearing kewl to total strangers.
(Catch that? I just did it there. I made a Phaedrus reference to prove that I am a hardcore Doper. Respect me, for I am chock-full of the l33t.)
Meh. Nod, smile, let it go. If it’s a useful reference to the Nazis or Hitler, it’s useful whether or not someone takes the opportunity to prove they know about Godwin’s Law. They’re special, they feel better about themselves, ignore it and move on.
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Mind you, Jonah Goldberg is a complete and utter tool.
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No question! That’s why publishing his book constitutes taking pity on him.
And elmwood promptly (and satirically) demonstrates Goldberg’s main line of reasoning…