# Godwinned at a family dinner

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 13, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132 "2011-09-13T03:15:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/1 "2011-09-13T03:15:18Z")

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So we’re having a bar-b-que and one of my bro’s that I haven’t seen for several years, darn the luck, tells his buds “haw haw haw, my sister used to live on Eagle Nest Lane.” Mrsin and I are:confused:😕😕😕

Go home, google, :eek: Is it some kind of common knowledge that HITLER’s summer home was Eagle Nest? Who the hell knows that kind of shit?

Wowsers, I thought the street name was because we had actual eagles flying above our house on many occasions. I must be a secret NAZI I guess.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/2 "2011-09-13T03:25:20Z")

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Yeah, pretty common knowledge for anyone who has read WWII accounts. You can still visit the place after taking a fairly hair-raising ride on a bus, then ride up an elevator to the chalet. It’s a hell of a view of Bavaria from up there.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/3 "2011-09-13T03:25:42Z")

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Yep, I live there. Hitler is two doors down. Looks similar, just grayer and balding.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/4 "2011-09-13T09:33:02Z")

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Y’know, the Nazis had pieces of “flair” that they made the Jews wear.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/5 "2011-09-13T12:48:16Z")

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We have an Eagles Nest Ct in my county. Along with a dozen or so Eagles Nest something or other subdivisions. We live in the Colorado high country and I’m sure they are refering to real Eagles Nests.

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**Author:** ![postcards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@postcards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/postcards)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/6 "2011-09-13T14:10:56Z")

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[William K. Vanderbilt](http://www.vanderbiltmuseum.org/home.php?section=mansion&sub=eagle) must have been a closet Nazi then, too.

But he built his in the 1920s, so maybe Hitler took the name from him.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/7 "2011-09-13T14:19:49Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> Go home, google, :eek: Is it some kind of common knowledge that HITLER’s summer home was Eagle Nest? Who the hell knows that kind of shit?

I think it is quite common knowledge. That doesn’t mean everyone knows it or that you’re weird for not knowing.

Basically if you know anything at all about WWII beyond the very basics you would tend to know this. Just as an example, the capture of the Eagle’s Nest is featured in the WWII series “Band of Brothers,” which drew 10 million viewers at the time of broadcast and was one of the highest selling DVD sets of all time.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/8 "2011-09-13T15:23:37Z")

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Yeah, another vote for fairly common knowledge, at least among military history buffs.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/9 "2011-09-13T15:30:05Z")

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It’s common knowledge if you’ve studied World War II or read biographies of Hitler. Outside of that, it’s not.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/10 "2011-09-13T15:35:39Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> It’s common knowledge if you’ve studied World War II or read biographies of Hitler. Outside of that, it’s not.

My point is that it comes up in some extremely popular media that appeals to people beyond Hitler-biography readers or those who actively “study” WWII, causing the knowledge to become more widely spread than the average Hitler factoid.

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**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/11 "2011-09-13T15:48:26Z")

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Where exactly does Godwin come in here?

[Godwin’s Law](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law) doesn’t apply to every situation that somehow involves Nazis.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/12 "2011-09-13T15:52:42Z")

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> [@Pitchmeister](#):
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> Where exactly does Godwin come in here?
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> [Godwin’s Law](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law) doesn’t apply to every situation that somehow involves Nazis.

You know who was a stickler for definitions? Hitler.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/13 "2011-09-13T16:58:45Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> It’s common knowledge if you’ve studied World War II or read biographies of Hitler. Outside of that, it’s not.

Or visited Germany, or talked to anybody who knows the history, or watched any of a zillion war movies.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/14 "2011-09-13T17:18:46Z")

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> [@Hello\_Again](#):
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> You know who was a stickler for definitions? Hitler.

There we go.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/15 "2011-09-13T17:34:57Z")

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Personally, I first know the reference from the game (on the C-64, in my group of friends) “Into the Eagle’s Nest.” I’ve heard it many times since, but that’s my initial exposure to the phrase.

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**Author:** ![gwendee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gwendee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gwendee)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/16 "2011-09-13T17:40:04Z")

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Well, I didn’t know and there’s a country club near here that is nicknamed Eagle’s Nest. I suspect my friends who are charter members and yak about it all the time don’t either…or maybe they do. They SAY it’s because there are actual eagles’ nests up on that hill, but I’ve never seen one.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/17 "2011-09-13T18:05:44Z")

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> [@Pitchmeister](#):
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> Where exactly does Godwin come in here?
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> [Godwin’s Law](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law) doesn’t apply to every situation that somehow involves Nazis.

That just means it was Godwined in one step.

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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/18 "2011-09-13T18:19:13Z")

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I watch Hitler programs a LOT and I wouldn’t have gotten it. If he had said “my sister had a dog named Blondie” on the other hand, I would have laughed too.

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/19 "2011-09-13T21:51:36Z")

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I didn’t know that. Though I have studied (and pretty intensively too) both German and history. Guess I haven’t watched the right movies. Or played the right games.

Didn’t know about Blondie, either. Clearly, my education is lacking. Hello, Netflix???

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/godwinned-at-a-family-dinner/596132/20 "2011-09-14T00:22:15Z")

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I’ve actually been to the Kehlsteinhaus, so…  
In case you’re wondering: it’s not all that and the food is bad. The elevator is impressive, though.

(Hitler rarely went there anyway - the place was a gift from his Nazi friends, but he was afraid of heights…)

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