# Going Clear, Alex Gibney's new documentary about Scientology **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 29, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259 "2015-03-29T03:10:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/281 "2015-05-08T05:43:18Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > “Blind-sided.” whoa, I didn’t see that one coming ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/282 "2015-05-08T05:48:03Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > “Blind-sided.” Going with my gut: 0. Taking a moment to think about it: a billion. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/283 "2015-05-08T13:37:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > I see from a recent post that Neil Gaiman was raised in Scientology, though he left. It significantly changes the image I had of him, though that’s probably unfair of me. Still, though, I’m starting to think that the Wikipedia and IMDB pages for all celebrities should have a summary of their affiliations with Scientology just so I don’t get blind-sighted like that. I’m so glad he’s out. His will is strong because he was in pretty deep ([transcript](http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/07/scientology_neil_gaiman_bbc_1968.php) of an interview he gave the BBC when he was 7!) and when your whole family is in you have to be very very careful and very very quiet to avoid Disconnection. He must know what a piece of shit his father was though. Wait, I just found Ortega’s blog where there’s a LOT more information, including a [video of the interview above](http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/21/in-his-new-book-is-neil-gaiman-exorcising-his-scientology-past/) with young master Gaiman, and information about why I say his father was a piece of shit. I do hate to say that since I love and respect Neil. I’m happy he’s out, admire his strength, fully understand the tightrope he has to walk, and would never blame the sins of the father on the son. He has know though, and what a terrible legacy. Gaiman’s sister was in one of the recent Scientology [Going Clear attack ads,](http://tonyortega.org/2015/05/05/neil-gaimans-sister-shows-up-in-scientology-response-video-to-going-clear/) this one targeting Mike Rinder. Rinder’s response is great. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/284 "2015-06-14T02:50:37Z")
Haven’t had a chance to see the movie yet, but I am reading the book. Yikes. This book reminds me of the Manson biography that came out a few years ago, the one with the bright-yellow cover. 99% of people could see Charles Manson for what he was and avoided him like the plague, and the other 1% worshipped him. Same thing with Hubbard. Now that I know how to do spoiler tags: I mean, his son had to kill himself to get away from his father! ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/285 "2015-06-19T03:00:05Z")
I don’t know that that has to be in spoiler tags. It’s not mentioned in the movie. Quentin was gay, and LRH, though by some accounts bisexual (or a self-loathing homosexual wanting to pass by marrying women), wrote bigotry into his “scriptures.” It must have been horrible for Quentin. A lot has been going on but I haven’t posted because I assume everyone interested is reading Tony Ortega’s blog. The movie opens in Australian cinemas tomorrow (today, for them). For those who haven’t kept up with the blog, Tony Ortega’s book is out now. It’s called The Unbreakable Miss Lovely and is about Paulette Cooper. “Miss Lovely” was Scientology’s code name for her. She had written a scathing book about Scn called The Scandal of Scientology (which, if you read it now, and [you can because it’s online](http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/cooper/sos.html), shows not much has changed), which infuriated L. Ron Hubbard. He did his best to have her destroyed, which included getting her indicted for sending bomb threats to Scientology. (They got her fingerprints on a piece of paper with a bomb threat on it and sent it to themselves) The charges were dropped when she took a “truth serum” test, then completely exonerated when the FBI raided COS during Operation Snow White (read the Wikipedia page about the largest infiltration of the US Government in history) and found the files about Paulette, including a failed plan called Operation Freakout (Wiki that too), which was another scheme to get her either incarcerated or sent to a mental institution. Paulette had to endure 15+ years of horrific harassment by “the world’s most ethical people” (they love irony and hypocrisy in Scientology) which almost did drive her insane and on the brink of suicide, yet now, she’s appearing at several venues alongside Tony Ortega during his current book tour! She’s an amazing woman, it’s an amazing story, and Ortega’s book is the first to take it on. He spent 2 years researching it and worked closely with Paulette. His sources also include FBI agents involved in the investigations at the time, and even former Scientologists who were part of the Operations. I highly recommend the book to anyone with even the slightest interest in the cult. With the right participants (writer, director, actress), it would make a hell of a film! (Fingers crossed) ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/286 "2015-06-19T03:08:58Z")
On a related note, here’s an article from Cracked about [the “education” Scientologist kids receive.](http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1648-5-weird-realities-when-scientologists-run-your-school.html) ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/287 "2015-06-19T03:41:43Z")
I meant to put these various links in but forgot, and didn’t make the time limit. [The Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout) about Operation Freakout and what came before. [Synopsis of her ordeal](http://www.paulettecooper.com/scandal1.htm) by Paulette Cooper herself. [The Unbreakable Miss Lovely at amazon.com](http://www.amazon.com/Unbreakable-Miss-Lovely-Scientology-Paulette/dp/1511639377/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1434683071&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Unbreakable+Miss+Lovely) [Tony Ortega’s blog](http://tonyortega.org/), The Underground Bunker [Scans of the actual documents](http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Krasel/cooper/frk.html) obtained by the FBI during their raid. I’m excited. I’ll be meeting Tony Ortega Saturday as his book tour brings him to Chicago. All the tickets are gone now so I feel fortunate that we got ours. Unfortunately Paulette Cooper won’t be with him. The Scienos are getting a bit freaked out. Fair Game/Dead Agent tweets have begun showing up. They didn’t care when they thought it would be a quick release, a few hundred copies sold, if that, then forgotten. With this self-financed book tour getting more publicity the wheels have slowly begun to turn in their tiny minds that, maybe they ought to start shooting themselves in the foot again. Good idea! Tony needs all the publicity he can get. The massive [Scientology conference](http://tonyortega.org/2015/06/16/o-canada-all-eyes-in-the-scientology-watching-world-will-be-looking-north-next-week/#more-23330) is next week in Toronto. I wish I were able to make it. It will be a Who’s Who of SPs all in one place. Scn has probably hired every private investigator for hundreds of miles around to try and keep track of everybody. Check out this lineup! > [@](#): > > The event will be at the Sheraton Toronto Airport Hotel & Conference Centre from 22-26 June. > > There will be morning, afternoon and evening sessions over the five days of the seminar. The evening sessions, unless otherwise indicated, will be panel discussions, open to questions from the audience. This is an outline of the programme that we hope to present, certain details may be modified. > > **Monday 22 June** > > _Morning sessions:_ > > Why Me? Jon Atack’s path from raw recruit to trained auditor and OT V, his departure from Scientology and his work since. > > Hubbard’s biography – Jon with Gerry Armstrong and a video from Hubbard’s biographer Russell Miller. We will examine Hubbard’s significant claims: that he was a ‘bloodbrother’ of the Pikuni people; that he broke broncos as an infant; his alleged study with gurus in Tibet, India, China and Mongolia; the Caribbean Motion Picture Expedition; his frequent claims to be a ‘nuclear physicist’ and to have made the first mineralogical survey of Puerto Rico; the Alaskan Radio Experimental Expedition; Hubbard’s claims to have been a wounded and decorated war hero and to have worked in Navy Intelligence; Hubbard’s involvement with Aleister Crowley’s Sex Magick; Hubbard’s claims to virtuosity as a hypnotist. > > _Afternoon sessions:_ > > The history of the cult – Jon Atack on the origins of the cult – Whatever happened to the first 280 Clears, the research pool upon which Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health was based? The withdrawal of Hubbard’s original supporters: publisher Art Ceppos, editor John Campbell, and Dr Joseph Winter; the Shrine Auditorium Clear fiasco; Hubbard’s kidnap of his baby daughter, Alexis, and flight to Cuba; the Wichita Foundation; Hubbard’s loss of Dianetics and creation of ‘Scientology’ (largely based on Aleister Crowley’s ideas); Saint Hill; Government Inquiries; Heavy Ethics and the Sea Project – with Hana Whitfield, a founder member of the Sea Project; the Mission into Time – with Hana (who will also talk about Hubbard’s temperament); the Sea Org in the Mediterranean, overboarding, the death of Susan Meister; the Rock Festival and the flight to the US; Hubbard in hiding; the Sea Org in the 70s, with Nancy Many, Chuck Beatty; the CMO take over with Jesse Prince > > _Evening sessions:_ > > Nancy Many’s Brainwashed; Jesse, Hana, Nancy, Gerry, Q&A > > **Tuesday 23 June** > > _Morning sessions:_ > > The Guardian’s Office of Special Affairs – Jon Atack introduction – the first criminal activity (James Elliot, in Wichita, in 1952); The Scientologist: a Manual on the Dissemination of Material 1955; the creation of the Guardian’s Office and What is Greatness?; Nancy Many on Hubbard’s direction of the GO. > > Tony Ortega on The Unbreakable Miss Lovely, with Miss Lovely herself, Paulette Cooper; ‘dead-agenting’ and ‘fair game’: the tactics used to ruin critics. The 800-page Information Full Hat, used by the Guardian’s Office and re-issued in 1990, without a single deletion. > > _Afternoon sessions:_ > > Celebrities – Jon Atack introduction, including celebrities who left, such as Aldous Huxley, Gloria Swanson, Leonard Cohen, Van Morrison and Nicole Kidman; policy on celebrities; Nora Crest, former staffer at Celebrity Center LA, Carmen Llewelyn, Hollywood actor, about her experience at CC. The religion angle – how Scientology was transformed from a ‘science of mental health’ into a religion. With contributions from cult expert Christian Szurko, Professor Martin Poulter and Professor James Beverley. > > _Evening sessions:_ > > Tory Christman, Nancy Many, Nora Crest, Carmen Llewelyn > > **Wednesday 24 June** > > _Morning sessions:_ > > Jon Atack with Steven Hassan – the hypnotic and social influence techniques of Scientology deconstructed. Demonstrations of training and auditing: Book One, TRs, Objectives, NED, Grades, Clearing Course/OT II; OT III; OT IV-VII; OT VIII ‘Antichrist’ – with Jesse Prince, senior ‘technical terminal’ when OT VIII was released. > > _Afternoon sessions:_ > > Second generation – Nora Crest; former Hamburg State Minister, Ursula Caberta, video on child abuse in Scientology. Jon Atack on problems particular to second generation members. Christian Szurko on counselling ex-members. > > Scientology attitudes towards medical treatment – Tory Christman, who was ordered to stop taking epilepsy medication; Lawrence Wollersheim video on Scientology’s attack upon his mental health. > > _Evening sessions:_ > > Jamie DeWolf will perform his show about his great-grandfather, Ron Hubbard > Gerry Armstrong presentation > > **Thursday 25 June** > > _Morning sessions:_ > > The international scene – Professor Alexander Dvorkin on eastern Europe; Pete Griffiths on Ireland and the UK; Andreas Heldal-Lund on Scandinavia; Steve Cannane, author of a new book on the history of the cult in Australia; and Jonny Jacobsen, journalist and long-term Scientology expert based in Paris, on the European scene. > > _Afternoon sessions:_ > > Front groups, including Narconon and the health dangers of the Purification Rundown. > > _Evening sessions:_ > > We hope to have video reports from Karin Spaink, in Holland; Marta Gorna, in Poland; Simonetta Po, in Italy; criminologist Arnaud Palison, who worked with the French courts; and a video from Lawrence Wollersheim about his successful litigation; Steve Cannane, Professor Dvorkin, Pete Griffiths, Q&A > > **Friday 26 June** > > _Morning sessions:_ > > Recruiting and hard sell; the dissemination drill; the registrar sales course and Big League Sales. > > _Afternoon sessions:_ > > Recovery with Chris Shelton, Nan McLean; Jon Atack’s recommendation that members question the tenets in open discussion. Cult information and the internet – David Pike, of FACTNet, and Brian Collinge, message board moderator. The official website: [Getting Clear: A Conference on Scientology](http://gettingclear.co/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/288 "2015-06-19T03:42:48Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > On a related note, here’s an article from Cracked about [the “education” Scientologist kids receive.](http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1648-5-weird-realities-when-scientologists-run-your-school.html) They like to start 'em young. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/289 "2015-06-20T03:28:49Z")
UK! Going Clear is scheduled to play in 10-15 theaters starting next week. I don’t know which theaters but if you live in a major city, closely scan showtime listings next Thursday or Friday. [http://m.rte.ie/ten/news/2015/0619/709237-scientology-documentary-to-get-uk-release-despite/](http://m.rte.ie/ten/news/2015/0619/709237-scientology-documentary-to-get-uk-release-despite/) > [@](#): > > However, distributors and exhibitors will go ahead with their plans to show the film in 10 to 15 UK cinemas from June 26. > > … > > Sky Atlantic, which owns theatrical rights to the film, has reportedly postponed the film’s UK television broadcast until September, after concerns that the film could contravene libel laws in Northern Ireland Even if it will be broadcast, please support it by seeing it in a theater if that option is available to you. Tell all your friends. Same with Australia, where Going Clear is playing now. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/290 "2015-06-21T04:42:30Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > On a related note, here’s an article from Cracked about [the “education” Scientologist kids receive.](http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1648-5-weird-realities-when-scientologists-run-your-school.html) Reminds me of those schools where kids memorize the Koran, and that’s pretty much it. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/291 "2015-06-26T13:27:35Z")
Here’s a UK theaters list: [http://goingclear.squarespace.com/](http://goingclear.squarespace.com/) I hope people go see it, if only to thumb their nose at a cult that tried to prevent it from being shown in the UK at all. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/292 "2015-06-26T13:50:47Z")
This is not exactly related to Going Clear, but it’s an article written by Carmen Llywelyn, who was married to Jason Lee, and through him got involved with Scientology. She didn’t get out of Scientology completely by choice, but was labeled a Suppressive Person because she read a book, A Piece of Blue Sky, by former Scientologist Jon Atack. It’s an interesting and sad article. [Why I Left Scientology](http://gawker.com/why-i-left-scientology-1703997050) ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2015, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/293 "2015-07-02T04:00:06Z")
Carmen’s so nice. I’ve been following her on Twitter for a long time. It’s been gratifying to see her story get pickup up and reported on all over the place. It was even on the front page of Yahoo! Something else that’s being passed around online, from Vanity Fair to Huffington Post, The Hollywood Reporter and Slate, is a story that Tony Ortega broke. David Miscavige’s father, Ron Sr., has signed to release a book about his time in Scientology and about his son. Its delicious title will be “If He Dies, He Dies” (referring to when the PIs who were being paid $10,000 a week to shadow Ron Sr. until they got caught with an arsenal in the trunk of their car including an illegal silencer, thought R was having a heart attack and called their Scieno handler to ask what they should do. According to them, they immediately got a call back from David Miscavige himself and that’s what he told them. It’s gotta add insult to injury for DM that his own words are being used for the title). It’s supposedly being released early next year. DM must be having a fit! ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2015, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/294 "2015-07-02T04:18:06Z")
Btw, Ron Sr. wasn’t having a heart attack, he was just fumbling with his phone. Let us all hope that Sr. stays nice and healthy through the release, the many media appearances and subsequent book tour to come. And beyond, of course. Ron Jr., David Miscavige’s brother, has, just like his mom, dad, and daughter, been out of Scientology for several years. His daughter Jenna Miscavige Hill, also wrote a book. It’s about her awful time in the Sea Org as a kid, called Beyond Belief. Highly recommended. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2015, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/295 "2015-07-02T06:06:12Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > “the world’s most ethical people” (they love irony and hypocrisy in Scientology) By this, do you mean the leadership is generally well aware of the irony and hypocrisy you’re referring to and don’t care, or are you not meaning to indicate the irony and hypocrisy are intentional? I always wonder about cases like this–does the leadership know full well what it’s doing, or does it somehow fool itself? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/296 "2015-07-02T11:42:58Z")
Having never been in the cult and never in that mindset, I have no idea, really, but in general I believe most of them, maybe even all of them, are truly brainwashed and believe that what they’re doing is right, no matter what that might be. The end (humankind’s salvation and their own eternity) justifies whatever means. They believe in Hubbard and all the shit his addled mind vomited out. They may even know that they’re being ironic & hypocritical according to society’s rules but don’t care because they’re “right” (because LRH was “right”) and everyone else is wrong. Most of the ones who realize how fucked up that is leave. Or sometimes they leave for other reasons and then once they’re out of the bubble they come to realize how fucked up it all is. So to your last question, I’d say both. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/297 "2015-07-17T02:31:16Z")
Bumping to say how thrilled I am that **Going Clear** was nominated for 7 Emmy awards today! The nominations categories are: 1. Outstanding Documentary Or Nonfiction Special 2. Outstanding Writing For Nonfiction Programming 3. Outstanding Directing For Nonfiction Programming 4. Outstanding Cinematography For Nonfiction Programming 5. Outstanding Picture Editing For Nonfiction Programming 6. Outstanding Sound Editing For Nonfiction Programming (Single Or Multi-Camera) 7. Outstanding Sound Mixing For Nonfiction Programming (Single or Multi-Camera) It probably won’t win the big ones because it’s up against **Citizenfour** , which has already won just about everything, including the Best Documentary Feature Oscar this year (I know, Oscars, Emmys, weird that a movie can be eligible for both). **Going Clear** will also be eligible for an upcoming Oscar nomination. The Emmys are on September 20. Five days later, on September 25, Going Clear will be released (again) in theaters in the US. It’s not a huge wide release, but it’s a lot wider than the theater release in March. I know that it’ll be playing in Chicago, but I don’t know where yet. I’ve seen it 3 times on HBO, but I want the experience to see it in the theater. This release will keep it visible to critics and other groups who will soon after be voting on various awards. And it will, again, drive the Scienos nuts, which is always fun. Miscavige must be having a cow after today’s nominations! ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/298 "2015-07-17T02:40:35Z")
I forgot to mention that Scieno Elizabeth Moss is nominated for Mad Men. I wonder if there will be any Scientology jokes during the broadcast and, if so, they’ll cut to her every time. I kinda feel sorry for her because she was born into the cult, lost from birth, and even if she wanted to leave, couldn’t/wouldn’t because she’d lose all her family and friends. She doesn’t have much of a choice, but she still belongs to a vicious, vile, loathsome cult, so I don’t feel THAT sorry for her. Also in September is the Toronto Film Festival, and I think, maybe, that’s where Louis Theroux’s as-yet-untitled Scientology documentary will premiere. September will be a very bad month for Miscavige. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259/299 "2015-07-31T01:29:17Z")
The US DVD release date has been announced. According to Variety, it’s October 6.It’s also going to be on Video On Demand on October 30, > **[Scientology Documentary ‘Going Clear’ Gets October DVD, VOD Release](https://variety.com/2015/film/news/scientology-documentary-going-clear-dvd-vod-october-1201553069/)** > > FilmRise has acquired U.S. DVD and non-exclusive download to own rights to Alex Gibney's “Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief" > [@](#): > > FilmRise will release “Going Clear” on DVD and Blu-ray on October 6, and on VOD platforms, including iTunes, Amazon Instant Video, Vudu, Google Play, Sony PlayStation and Xbox, non-exclusively on October 30. ---
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Tony Ortega appeared onstage with John Sweeney in London earlier as part of his ongoing The Unbreakable Miss Lovely book tour. During the discussion it was revealed that Sky would air Going Clear on September 21! Previously it was said that Sky couldn’t show it because they couldn’t guarantee that it wouldn’t be seen in Northern Ireland, where the libel laws are different, and Scientology was threatening to pounce and sue if it aired. Murdoch must have checked and double-checked with the Sky lawyers and just said fuck it, you want to sue? Bring it on! Congrats Brits, you won! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-clear-alex-gibneys-new-documentary-about-scientology/716259.md?page=16)