# Going forward, will Repub candidates still need Trump's endorsement? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 10, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696 "2022-11-10T17:01:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/1 "2022-11-10T17:01:50Z")
Or after this election, is his support now somewhere on a spectrum from inconsequential to toxic? IOW has he lost his mojo? Show your work. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/2 "2022-11-10T17:14:15Z")
> **[Trump urged to delay 2024 launch after GOP's uneven election](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-2024-republicans-midterms-43d088c71c2984a66fdbd5c2296f48fc)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — It was supposed to be a red wave that former President Donald Trump could triumphantly ride to the Republican nomination as he prepares to launch another White House run. I can only hope the pile-on gets traction and momentum. Some choice snippets: _The night’s message, they argued: The American people want to move on._ _“I mean, we had a historic opportunity and Trump’s recruitment of unelectable candidates blew it for us,” said Scott Reed, a veteran Republican strategist. “Trump’s now lost three elections in a row for the Republican Party and it’s time to snap out of this foolishness.”_ _Reed argued the party “had everything going for us: money, the issue agenda, Biden being in the tank,” but said Trump’s efforts to keep himself in the spotlight by teasing a run in the race’s final stretch “obviously worked up a lot of independents and Democrats to turn out and vote.”_ _Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a longtime Trump friend and adviser-turned-critic, who is considering his own run for president in 2024, said Republicans “have a fundamental decision to make.”_ _“We lost in ‘18. We lost in ’20. We lost in ’21 in Georgia. And now in ’22 we’re going to net lose governorships, we’re not going to pick up the number of seats in the House that we thought and we may not win the Senate despite a president who has a 40% job approval,” he said. “There’s only one person to blame for that and that’s Donald Trump.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/3 "2022-11-10T17:20:32Z")
Even one of his most outspoken supporters doesn’t want to be seen with him just now. Warnock should be bringing this up often. > **[GOP starts boosting Herschel Walker in runoff amid calls to keep Trump away...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/gop-starts-boosting-walkers-runoff-calls-keep-trump-away-georgia-rcna56514)** > > Rick Scott, chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, is already raising money for Walker, but he's not touching the question of how to handle Trump. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/4 "2022-11-10T17:36:48Z")
I don’t think they’ll have to have Trump’s endorsement, but they’ll need to avoid his ire, a small but measurable difference. I _think_ that many (R) are tired of the constant rehashing of 2018/2020 and want to move on from that, but have no problem if Trump returned to his big, bold statements on how easy it would be to fix everything, get rid of ‘those’ people, and the like. So, what made him popular in 2016, not what made him bitter after. ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/5 "2022-11-10T17:37:12Z")
We’ve heard this before. Republicans are coming to their senses and will abandon Trump. I don’t think we are there yet. MAGA voters still have power in the GOP, and Trump is still pulling those strings. Someone needs to rise up and replace him as the party leader, which hasn’t happened yet. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/6 "2022-11-10T17:41:02Z")
trump’s influence on the party will finally be gone when his hardcore base deserts him. Anecdotes like this from the ’ [Did the GOP underperform this election cycle?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-gop-underperform-this-election-cycle/974669)’ thread are encouraging: > [@Did the GOP underperform this election cycle?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-gop-underperform-this-election-cycle/974669/14): > > For what it’s worth, the guys at the bar I go to were all blaming the lack of a red wave solely on Trump and expressed a unanimous opinion that it’s time for him to ‘go away’. These were all fervent Trump supporters a year or so ago. My own 20 year old son, who is a hardcore right-winger and a former trump acolyte, is a good bellwether of wingnut trends, and has been saying that trump is done and that Desantis is the future of the party since months before the midterms. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/7 "2022-11-10T18:08:44Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > _…Trump’s recruitment of unelectable candidates blew it for us…_ Sweet music… 🥰 * * * * * * > [@solost](#): > > …trump is done and that Desantis is the future of the party… Frying pan into the fire? Or just go ahead and set the whole stove ablaze? ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/8 "2022-11-10T18:15:34Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > Even one of his most outspoken supporters doesn’t want to be seen with him just now. Warnock should be bringing this up often. I wonder if DeSantis is going to endorse Walker or quietly sit this one out. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/9 "2022-11-10T18:19:31Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > I wonder if DeSantis is going to endorse Walker Warnock and his team should keep bringing this up in order to goad Trump and DeSantis into an endorsement battle with Walker. Help drive the wedge between them a watch the pissing match. It’s got to hurt Walker. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/10 "2022-11-10T18:37:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@solost](#): > > > > …trump is done and that Desantis is the future of the party… > > Frying pan into the fire? Or just go ahead and set the whole stove ablaze? Yeah, if he is the future of the repub party he could be even worse than trump-- just as evil and more competent, taking advantage of the openings created by the guardrails trump knocked down. But the thread is about whether trump’s influence over the party is done or not, and it’s looking like trump may be cooked and DeSantis may be the next big thing. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-forward-will-repub-candidates-still-need-trumps-endorsement/974696/11 "2022-11-10T18:56:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Frying pan into the fire? Or just go ahead and set the whole stove ablaze? Desantis is horrifying indeed. I was just reading that Chris Christie might be gearing up for a run. Frankly, if we have to have a conservative Republican asshole as president, I’d rather see Chris. (And I do hope he chooses to run, and campaigns hard. That would be fun to watch - Chris is no slouch and can shred his opponents in debate if he wants to. Wouldn’t it be fun to see a multi-candidate debate including Desantis, Trump, Christie and whoever else?)