# Going Out On A Limb Here- Fuck You KKK **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 18, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515 "2015-07-18T13:37:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/1 "2015-07-18T13:37:45Z")
Honestly, how in the year 2015 is the kkk still a real goddamn thing? Of course the name alone will grab headlines, but since it is still a real thing, kkk: I hope it rains on your rally, and all your sheets get wet. And other bad things. [http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/18/us-usa-south-carolina-klan-idUSKCN0PS0DS20150718](http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/18/us-usa-south-carolina-klan-idUSKCN0PS0DS20150718) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/2 "2015-07-18T13:40:27Z")
Because a couple racist guys get together and decide to dress as ghosts. And they don’t have to ask the ghost party from two towns over. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/3 "2015-07-18T13:46:08Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Honestly, how in the year 2015 is the kkk still a real goddamn thing? > Of course the name alone will grab headlines, but since it is still a real thing, kkk: I hope it rains on your rally, and all your sheets get wet. And other bad things. Already, they have gotten more press than they deserve. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/4 "2015-07-18T13:47:57Z")
On the positive side, this should help clarify the reality to anyone still doubting the obvious racism/confederate flag connection. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/5 "2015-07-18T16:22:21Z")
They don’t have a ghost of a chance of changing policy about that flag. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/6 "2015-07-18T16:31:00Z")
You know who else was a racist asshole? Hitler. Yeah, I went there. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/7 "2015-07-18T17:02:50Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > On the positive side, this should help clarify the reality to anyone still doubting the obvious racism/confederate flag connection. Would that were true. ---
**Author:** ![Deanna\_D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@Deanna\_D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deanna_D)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/8 "2015-07-19T00:41:18Z")
I was at my office today, which is located just a block down from the SC Statehouse. I decided out of curiosity to go take a look at their rally. It was a pretty small group, from what I could see. They were outnumbered by the onlookers, many of whom showed up with signs denouncing the Klan, and promoting racial unity. Hopefully, they got the message. Police presence was extremely heavy, and it looked like there were police snipers positioned on the upper levels of the Statehouse as well. Thankfully, it was a peaceful day, but I did see on the local news that there were three arrests. Columbia has been a very interesting place to be for the past few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/9 "2015-07-19T01:00:28Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > kkk: I hope it rains on your rally, and all your sheets get wet. And other bad things. And they just got their sheets out of the dryer from when they were wet when they woke up. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/10 "2015-07-19T01:37:55Z")
Remember the Klan back in the 1920s, when one of their big things was hating on Catholics? They said President Al Smith was gonna dig a tunnel from the White House to the Vatican, so he could take orders straight from the Pope a’ Rome. The Klan was more entertaining back in those days. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/11 "2015-07-19T01:58:24Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > On the positive side, this should help clarify the reality to anyone still doubting the obvious racism/confederate flag connection. Exactly. It’s hilarious they felt The South was embarrassing the KKK and tried to rekindle that good 'ol boy grassroots movement. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/12 "2015-07-19T02:03:01Z")
South Carolina’s state treasurer’s reporting of events seems a bit skewed. Maybe he can’t see too well from the eye slits in his white hood. [https://twitter.com/TreasurerLoftis/status/622507126582300672](https://twitter.com/TreasurerLoftis/status/622507126582300672) ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/13 "2015-07-19T02:52:24Z")
Pitting the KKK? This place is getting edgy! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/14 "2015-07-19T02:56:58Z")
And in [today’s news](http://news.yahoo.com/flag-dispute-triggers-clash-south-carolina-capitol-001124390.html), the Nazis are apparently a thing in SC. Nazis? Good grief. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/15 "2015-07-19T02:59:34Z")
> [@White SIFL](#): > > Pitting the KKK? This place is getting edgy! Hey, I warned you I was going out on a limb. If you can’t handle edgy, stay out of the soup. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/16 "2015-07-19T04:11:02Z")
Why do I suddenly want to mention that I didn’t hear a single racist thing from Donald Trump? Ok, back to how the flag of the CSA is somehow racist. As to those ghost costumes, google the Knights Templars. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/17 "2015-07-19T04:20:01Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > Why do I suddenly want to mention that I didn’t hear a single racist thing from Donald Trump? Maybe he believes he already checked that box with his earlier comments. > [@](#): > > Ok, back to how the flag of the CSA is somehow racist. It’s not “showehow racist”. It started out as the emblem of a racist society and it’s still the emblem of racists. > [@](#): > > As to those ghost costumes, google the Knights Templars. Which Knights Templar groups should I concentrate on? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/18 "2015-07-19T04:25:01Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Honestly, how in the year 2015 is the kkk still a real goddamn thing? > Of course the name alone will grab headlines, but since it is still a real thing, kkk: I hope it rains on your rally, and all your sheets get wet. And other bad things. It’s really not much of a thing. The Klan, or, the Klans, since there is no single organization any more, has very little political or social clout. Broadly speaking you have three phases of Klan history. At its height in the 1920s the Klan had about 4,000,000 members. By the 1930s they only had tens of thousands of members. [ul] [li]Original Reconstruction era Klan. Disbanded because they essentially won.[/li][li]20th century Klan revived after _Birth of a Nation_ into a fraternal organization. More focused on anti-Catholicism than anti-black. Let’s face it, you didn’t need the Klan to be white and anti-black back then. Declined sharply in the late 1920s when key leader accused of rape and murder and petered out in the 40s. [/li][li]A bunch of independent groups siding with authorities in anti-Civil Rights efforts during the 50s and 60s.[/li][li]4th era of the Klan. Most people go with three eras of Klans but I go with four. In the early 1980s someone sued the pants off a KKK group in Alabama and won a huge settlement which bankrupted them. This really caused a further fracturing of the various small Klan groups. [/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/19 "2015-07-19T04:43:23Z")
The CSA stood for slavery, among others. But so did Jesus and every biblical character before him. The flag is being flown by those proud of being southerners, more than anything else. So, are there actual slavers among those waving the CSA flag? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515/20 "2015-07-19T04:50:17Z")
Actual slavers? What the fuck are you talking about? This thread used to be perfectly rational. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-out-on-a-limb-here-fuck-you-kkk/725515.md?page=2)