Has anyone claimed that the actual purpose of your trip was to seek out neo-nazis and antisemites? The point is that you went to Germany expecting to find such people, and this expectation was strong enough that the sight of a single swastika painted on a wall somewhere was sufficient to confirm to you that an entire nation has failed to learn the lessons of history.
I used to live a couple of streets over from a Klan meeting house (since condemned.) And by “used to”, I mean eight years ago. In Orange County, Florida - one of the most diverse counties in America (it’s the dark bit in the middle of Florida). I guess we are a nation of white supremacists who’ve learned nothing from our history, huh?
I hope you’re able to find the fantastically skilled therapist you’ll need to help you work through the trauma of this experience.
You mean my post where I pointed out that the links Cartooniverse provided were predominantly examples of anti-semitism among the Muslim population in Europe?
Ok, so there are general anti-semitic stereotypes in Germany and Europe. Never denied it. How is that relevant to my point that the specific examples given by Cartooniverse were predominantly not of that type?
Especially when originally, he was posting nonsensical statements about not just feelings and attitudes but expectations of outright and explicit neo-Nazi iconography and hostility to himself?
This is the person who legitimately wanted actor Colin Farrell to be arrested for rape because in a movie a character he played kissed a teenager.
So, being hyperdramatic is his thing.
Get over yourself, you can see the swastika all over the world.
Weirdly enough, the the place you have to look the hardest to find it is: Germany
I wonder why that is.
Was gonna request a link, but decided to find it myself.
This is quite true. I went to Latvia in May, my first day there sitting in a mall eating and on the back of all the chairs where stylized swastikas. Threw me for a loop since I wasn’t expecting it at all, especially since the Latvians got rolled over by the Nazis. I found out it’s a traditional symbol in the Latvian culture.
The worst place I’ve seen any kind of neo-Nazi crap was at a motorcycle race in Maryland. One guy had a massive swastika on his back. It was so out of place that I had to take a photo of it.
I’m surprised the OP found one swastika in Germany, but so what, it’s one asshole as already been said.
It was my grandfather’s dream to shoot down a German airplane. Last summer, he got his wish.
Yes, it’s kind of an old joke
Fair enough. My mistake.
Were statistical breakdowns provided for the various ethnic groups among German citizens, especially among 2nd-generation immigrant families, I feel comfortable in asserting that they would contribute a disproportionate amount to the anti-semitic total amongst citizens. But I cannot prove this, so I will leave it at that.
No, it was not the relevant term. Great Antibob was drawing a distinction between anti-semitism and Neo-Nazism, and your post served only to conflate the two terms.
I’ve seen it in every country I’ve visited - as a German it somehow stands out to me… I wonder why that would be? :smack: … you can even find that damn thing it in Switzerland.
I went to a reconstruction of the Limes Germanics near my house recently (reconstructed near an actual site) and in a display case showing all the things they had recovered they had a collection of buttons/fasteners for clothing. One was in the shape of a swastika.
Near the button, in English and in German, was a note stating, something to the effect of, “This symbol has been used throughout history for a variety of reasons. It is displayed here to show that the Roman’s also used it in their clothing. It’s display is in no way meant as a political symbol.”
I’m paraphrasing but an out of the way museum with one tiny button on display among thousands of other artifacts and the people in charge felt they had to explain that it wasn’t a Nazi symbol in this context.
Hmmm… now where have I heard that line of thinking before?
Oh right! Now I remember:
Crusading is very time-intensive. I’m guessing most of us have better things to do.
I know. I love that bit by him. What pattern, exactly, did you find?
A couple of months ago I saw a swastika drawn on the wall of an IHOP bathroom. Since then I’ve been down in a funk. Knowing that the American people are neo-nazis and still hate Jews has taken the brightness out of life. Clearly we have learned nothing.
I guess, the Romans 2000 years ago must have been Nazi’s as well… the Holy Roman Empire and all. … :eek:
Well, German pancakes are pretty good.
Uh, OK, yeah I can kinda see a pattern there.
No, we call it The Civil War. The only time I’ve ever heard “The War of Northern Aggression” was as an obvious joke.
Here is an indication:
In 14,000 hate-mail letters, emails and faxes sent over 10 years to the Israeli embassy in Berlin and the Central Council of Jews in Germany, Professor Monika Schwarz-Friesel found that 60% were written by educated, middle-class Germans, including professors, lawyers, priests and university and secondary school students. Most, too, were unafraid to give their names and addresses – something she felt few Germans would have done 20 or 30 years ago.