# Going to Pittsburgh- what should I not miss while I'm there? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 13, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439 "2015-11-13T03:15:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439/61 "2015-11-23T01:28:48Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Really? I lived in Pittsburgh for over five years and everyone talked about the Pittsburgh left. Seemed like a native thing to me. > > Heh. It even has its own Wikipedia page. šŸ™‚ [Pittsburgh left - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_left) I know ā€“ I know. We probably should take it elsewhere but ----------- consider the source. Even I am a Wiki editor so how much can it be trusted? šŸ˜ƒ > [@seal\_cleaner](#): > > I toured Carrie Furnaces, an old steel mill while I was there, I highly recommend it. The tours, if they still have them, end in October or possibly earlier but the area around the Waterfront section of Homestead and the items on display around Station Square are worth the effort if you are near them. One would think Station Square would be railroad but they have some interesting items of steel heritage as well. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439/62 "2015-11-23T01:44:38Z")
> [@kopek](#): > > I know ā€“ I know. We probably should take it elsewhere but ----------- consider the source. Even I am a Wiki editor so how much can it be trusted? šŸ˜ƒ Ha! True that. But my real source were all the Pittsburgh natives I knew living there. The wiki article was just for fun. But really, how would I know to call It that unless Pittsburghers taught me? I lived in Oakland, Squirrel Hill, Shadyside, and East Liberty. I promise you- natives told me it. It may not be everyone, but itā€™s not just a tourist thing. Plus the Pittsburgh park- one tire up on the curb! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439/63 "2015-11-23T06:47:50Z")
Oh, and if thereā€™s a parking chair out, DO NOT MOVE IT. Yeah, itā€™s illegal. Itā€™s still sacred. ---
**Author:** ![Beelzebubba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Beelzebubba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beelzebubba)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439/64 "2015-11-23T10:57:12Z")
> [@kopek](#): > > I would check his medicine cabinet for non-standard substances. It actually depends slightly. Forget any speed limit under 65. The speed limit in a 25 zone is 40; the speed limit in a 45 zone is 60. The speed limit in a 65 zone is 85 or 40 and nothing in-between. Pittsburgh may be the only place where I got pulled over for doing 27 in a 25 zone ā€“ clearly since I wasnā€™t doing 35-40 I must have been drunk. This can vary greatly however in some of the communities really hit by the Rust Belt thing. Homestead and a couple places around it (seriously) really need the income tickets generate. If you see indications the person is a local and he/she is doing the limit, mimic that behavior. Heā€™s too busy talking on his cell phone (via Sync, but still distracting) to really pay attention to how fast others are driving! I think the two-lane freeways/parkways/highways/pikes/(insert any other names for roads here) are part of the issue for him. In Atlanta, we have 4-7 lanes, so you can usually get around slow pokes driving the speed limit! I follow the speed limit plus 10mph rule on surface streets and most highways. But on controlled-access roads (which we refer to as interstates) I push it to about 13-14mph over. In Georgia, any speeding ticket less than 15mph over the limit is a ZERO point offense. So you pay the ticket and it never appears on your MVR and your insurance company never knows about it. =) Sometimes Iā€™m bad about pushing it closer to 20mph over when Iā€™m in a hurry. But my car shows the speed limit (on a little speed limit sign) right next to the digital speedometer. When you exceed the limit it turns red. But one of the reasons I slip under the radar (literally and figuratively) is because I drive a Volvo, so I donā€™t exactly call attention to myself from the cops. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439/65 "2015-11-23T12:02:56Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Oh, and if thereā€™s a parking chair out, DO NOT MOVE IT. Yeah, itā€™s illegal. Itā€™s still sacred. ESPECIALLY if thereā€™s been snow and someone has shoveled out a spot. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439/66 "2015-11-23T14:54:46Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Ha! True that. > > But my real source were all the Pittsburgh natives I knew living there. The wiki article was just for fun. But really, how would I know to call > It that unless Pittsburghers taught me? See, thatā€™s where Iā€™m different. Just being captive here I can see the Big Picture. Native Pittsburghers, especially some of the Squirrel Hill/Shadyside Academic crowd, claim EVERYTHING as being from Pittsburgh. Fast left turns, fast talking, odd local expressions (well ā€“ there they may have something), the Lindberg Baby kidnapping, the defeat of Hitler, and every worthwhile sports victory since Ug beat Og in a rousing game of Clubs. Itā€™s part of their charm. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439/67 "2015-11-23T15:01:58Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > ESPECIALLY if thereā€™s been snow and someone has shoveled out a spot. Yeah. I go to the Iggle fer some bread an t-paper and yinz move my chair, weā€™re gonna have words nā€™nat. It is an odd language. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX2QQZ9ZHuY ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439/68 "2015-11-23T15:09:39Z")
> [@kopek](#): > > See, thatā€™s where Iā€™m different. Just being captive here I can see the Big Picture. Native Pittsburghers, especially some of the Squirrel Hill/Shadyside Academic crowd, claim EVERYTHING as being from Pittsburgh. Fast left turns, fast talking, odd local expressions (well ā€“ there they may have something), the Lindberg Baby kidnapping, the defeat of Hitler, and every worthwhile sports victory since Ug beat Og in a rousing game of Clubs. Itā€™s part of their charm. šŸ˜ƒ Well, I donā€™t think itā€™s only from Pittsburgh and nobody claimed thatā€¦ just that there they do call that action a ā€œPittsburgh leftā€. Honestly, having lived in Buffalo, Boston, St. Louis, San Diego, Connecticut and now on Long Island, Pittsburgh was one of the few places Iā€™ve lived that actually had that move as an _expectation_ (drivers would get annoyed if you didnā€™t give them time to take that left when the light turns green). Weā€™ll just have to agree that we have had different experiences while living in our respective parts of Pittsburgh during our respective time there. FWIW, I lived there from 1989- 1995 and still go back as my stepson lives there. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439/69 "2015-11-23T15:34:41Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > The answer used to be ā€œThe next bus out.ā€ [Relevant Calvin and Hobbes cartoon](http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2011/05/20) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/going-to-pittsburgh-what-should-i-not-miss-while-im-there/737439.md?page=3)