# Golden Globes (there will be spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 8, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134 "2018-01-08T13:53:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/21 "2018-01-09T01:15:01Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > I found it kind of rude, actually. It’s \*not \*their personal fault that no women were nominated. I think it’s quite fine and proper to shine a light on the abuses and inequity (and iniquity!) in the industry but it’s not fair to take away from others’ achievements or make them feel guilty for being acknowledged. …this was the proper time to bring it up. Its not the directors “personal fault.” But they enjoy the privilege of an uneven playing field: and if they have to squirm for a couple of seconds on camera I don’t feel sorry for them one bit. 2% of hollywood blockbusters are directed by women. There have been 442 people nominated for best director at the Oscars in 82 years: only 5 have been women and only 1 has won. The ACLU have been investigating discriminatory hiring practices in Hollywood since 2015. Can you imagine another industry where 50% of (film school) graduates are women, but only 2% get the top jobs? #metoo has shone a huge spotlight on just part of the problem in Hollywood. Hollywood was built on the back of discriminatory hiring practices: of men hiring more men. The problems aren’t going to fix themselves. If men in the industry: if directors like Del Toro and Scott and Spielberg aren’t willing to put their privilege on the line to open up opportunities for women in the industry, then I’m not going to feel bad if they look awkward on camera for a few seconds. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/22 "2018-01-09T12:12:59Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > #metoo has shone a huge spotlight on just part of the problem in Hollywood. Hollywood was built on the back of discriminatory hiring practices: of men hiring more men. The problems aren’t going to fix themselves. If men in the industry: if directors like Del Toro and Scott and Spielberg aren’t willing to put their privilege on the line to open up opportunities for women in the industry, then I’m not going to feel bad if they look awkward on camera for a few seconds. Interestingly, [none of Weinstein’s accusers were invited](https://pagesix.com/2018/01/08/weinstein-accusers-claim-they-werent-invited-to-golden-globes/) to the Golden Globes. I didn’t pay close attention… was Anita Hill invited or was there any mention of the commission that she will head? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/23 "2018-01-09T14:24:58Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Interestingly, [none of Weinstein’s accusers were invited](https://pagesix.com/2018/01/08/weinstein-accusers-claim-they-werent-invited-to-golden-globes/) to the Golden Globes. > > I didn’t pay close attention… was Anita Hill invited or was there any mention of the commission that she will head? Some, not “none”. I didn’t watch much of the show, but I watched enough to see Angelina Jolie there. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/24 "2018-01-09T14:44:58Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Some, not “none”. I didn’t watch much of the show, but I watched enough to see Angelina Jolie there. My bad… the article doesn’t say none. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/25 "2018-01-09T14:47:50Z")
Is there any reason the accusers _should_ have been invited? I mean, it would have been a nice gesture, but unless they had a connection to a nominated work, they had no reason to be there. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/26 "2018-01-09T14:55:44Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > I found it kind of rude, actually. It’s \*not \*their personal fault that no women were nominated. I think it’s quite fine and proper to shine a light on the abuses and inequity (and iniquity!) in the industry but it’s not fair to take away from others’ achievements or make them feel guilty for being acknowledged. Natalie Portman has been trying to jump on the bandwagon for months. Classless person.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/27 "2018-01-09T15:03:42Z")
What does that mean? If a woman (or even a man) was not a victim of sexual harassment should she/he not speak out against it? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/28 "2018-01-09T19:19:44Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Natalie Portman has been trying to jump on the bandwagon for months. Classless person.:rolleyes: …what bandwagon? Natalie Portman has been outspoken about women’s right since-[for](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/marianne-schnall/natalie-portman-on-her-ne_b_110940.html)-[fucking](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4103172/Natalie-Portman-speaks-against-women-objectified-movies-screen.html)-[ever](http://www.indiewire.com/2013/10/natalie-portman-gives-some-real-talk-about-feminist-portrayals-in-hollywood-208224/). She didn’t jump on any bandwagon. There was nothing classless about this. Do you know what is classless? The way Hollywood treats women. ---
**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/29 "2018-01-09T22:06:01Z")
[Ashley Judd](http://people.com/movies/ashley-judd-harvey-weinstein-assault/) was in attendance. There was a lot of (quieter) nervous laughter when Seth Meyers threw out the first Weinstein jokes. Hollywood still afraid of him? I wouldn’t be surprised. Smart money says he will (eventually) make a comeback. Seems like they all do. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/30 "2018-01-09T23:43:44Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > On a related note, what was up with the sound being cut every so often? It seemed to coincide with acceptance speeches so I assumed it was an effort to censor bad language but I couldn’t tell from context what the speaker might have said. I definitely noticed that during Frances McDormand’s speech - they were really quick on the button thinking she was going to swear. I noticed they bleeped her for “Fox Searchlight” and again when I think she said “shift.” ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/31 "2018-01-15T08:11:19Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The Golden Globes are easily the most meaningless major awards ceremony in the entertainment business; unlike Oscars or SAG awards, they’re not handed out by actual professionals in the field, but by a small club. Why does the fact that they’re not in the industry make them meaningless? Sure the Oscars and the Guilds mean more in terms of industry recognition, but outside recognition isn’t meaningless. I have a friend who is a voting member of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association and he is a journalist/photographer who writes about movies, writes reviews and photographs filmmakers and actors for Italian publications. He’s a fun guy but he takes his job very seriously. He loves movies and takes them and his voting privileges seriously. They’re not IN the industry but neither are the Broadcast critics, and they have their own awards show. The Hollywood FOREIGN PRESS Association do, in essence, what the New York Film Critics or the Salt Lake City Film Critics or the Miami Film Critics or a hundred others do, except that they’re mostly from countries where English is not their first language, and, like my friend, they may write about movies and the entertainment industry too rather than just review movies. And OK, they have a televised awards show. So what? They still bring attention to movies and performances that deserve attention (and TV too, but I don’t care about TV). Another difference is that HFPA, a non-profit entity, raises a lot of money for worthy causes, such as film preservation. “Golden Globes Chatter Muted as HFPA Hands Out $2.8 Million in Grants” > **[Golden Globes Chatter Muted as HFPA Hands Out $2.8 Million in Grants](https://variety.com/2017/film/news/golden-globes-hfpa-2-8-million-grants-1202512879/)** > > Golden Globes Chatter is Muted as HFPA Hands Out $2.8 Million in Grants I didn’t watch the Golden Globes this year but my friend was probably running around on the red carpet because he was in charge of all the photographers. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134/32 "2018-01-16T13:04:15Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > I definitely noticed that during Frances McDormand’s speech - they were really quick on the button thinking she was going to swear. I noticed they bleeped her for “Fox Searchlight” and again when I think she said “shift.” They spoofed this very thing on SNL over the weekend, with Kate McKinnon playing FM. She said something to the effect of " I’m not cussing; it’s just the tone of my voice". [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/golden-globes-there-will-be-spoilers/806134.md?page=1)