# "Gone With the Wind" - going to get the "Song of the South" treatment?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 26, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769 "2017-08-26T22:25:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/61 "2017-08-29T02:54:35Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Why do I have to have an opinion? :dubious:

I infer that you do. If you want to maintain you don’t, then you may as well demonstrate your indifference by leaving the thread.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/62 "2017-08-29T19:31:31Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I infer that you do. If you want to maintain you don’t, then you may as well demonstrate your indifference by leaving the thread.

So it’s not valuable to offer relevant news?

And you can infer all you want, but you do so at the risk of inferring something that is incorrect. Given that I didn’t IMPLY anything with my post, your inference is being made in the absence of any evidence. I suggest you go back and re-learn the issues with inductive reasoning based in lack of evidence.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/63 "2017-08-29T19:46:08Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> So it’s not valuable to offer relevant news?

I think I can reasonably infer your opinion. I don’t know why you’re bothering to try to tease us with the idea that you don’t have one.

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> And you can infer all you want, but you do so at the risk of inferring something that is incorrect. Given that I didn’t IMPLY anything with my post, your inference is being made in the absence of any evidence. I suggest you go back and re-learn the issues with inductive reasoning based in lack of evidence.

I feel my thought processes thus far are on a solid enough basis, and the attempt at condescension makes me chuckle a bit. If being misinterpreted is a concern to you (assuming this is what is happening, and I doubt it is), then state your position clearly.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/64 "2017-08-29T20:50:42Z")

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I liked “Song of the South” when I was a wee tyke, still do, remember it fondly. Maybe they will launder it, reboot the franchise, and Brer Rabbit will be Bugs Bunny with a mullet.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/65 "2017-08-30T03:19:11Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I liked “Song of the South” when I was a wee tyke, still do, remember it fondly. Maybe they will launder it, reboot the franchise, and Brer Rabbit will be Bugs Bunny with a mullet.

Interesting question. What would it take to rehabilitate this material? How much post-modern mockery required? What happens when someone misses the subtext or wails that we have to think of the children who may be missing the subtext?

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/66 "2017-08-30T04:20:18Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I think I can reasonably infer your opinion. I don’t know why you’re bothering to try to tease us with the idea that you don’t have one.
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> I feel my thought processes thus far are on a solid enough basis, and the attempt at condescension makes me chuckle a bit. If being misinterpreted is a concern to you (assuming this is what is happening, and I doubt it is), then state your position clearly.

I will state the following clearly: you were (and are) wrong about my personal opinion on the issue.

Is that clear enough for you? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/67 "2017-08-30T10:55:23Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> I will state the following clearly: you were (and are) wrong about my personal opinion on the issue.
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> Is that clear enough for you? :dubious:

It’s clear what you’re claiming, but I think you’re wrong, pending a clear statement of what your personal opinion actually is, assuming you have one. This is all just a meaningless tangent anyway, and I’ll no longer follow this path.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/68 "2017-08-30T12:29:43Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I liked “Song of the South” when I was a wee tyke, still do, remember it fondly. Maybe they will launder it, reboot the franchise, and Brer Rabbit will be Bugs Bunny with a mullet.

You got it backwards – Bugs Bunny is Br’er Rabbit with a Bronx/Brooklyn accent.

I did a piece on this for the late lamented _Teemings_, but someone reposted it elsewhere:

> **[The Persistence of Bugs Bunny: Take 2](http://trailofthetrail.blogspot.com/2011/04/persistence-of-bugs-bunny-take-2.html#!/2011/04/persistence-of-bugs-bunny-take-2.html)**
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> by Stephen R. Wilk (Originally published by Teemings E-Zine , under the pseudonym 'Cal Meacham') Mickey Mouse is supposed by some to be t...

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**Author:** ![Tigers2B1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@Tigers2B1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tigers2B1)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/69 "2017-08-31T02:22:49Z")

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> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> To be fair, it isn’t shown to take either side politically. It’s not told from the viewpoint of the generals or political leaders, but from the POV of people on the ground, who did indeed watch their way of life as they had known it disappear. We know their way of life was wrong, but still, the terrors of Sherman’s March were likely not fun for those on the lower strata of Southern society who experienced it. The War, the Aftermath and such are the backdrops of it.

Yep, too bad this isn’t about the ‘politically correct’ v

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/70 "2017-08-31T12:59:33Z")

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Ed Kilgore [had a good column yesterday](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/yes-gone-with-the-wind-is-another-neo-confederate-monument.html) titled “Yes, _Gone With the Wind_ Is Another Neo-Confederate Monument.”

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/71 "2017-09-01T03:40:06Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> “Racially jarring elements”? Pixy’s character made me cringe, big time. The only way I could stomach it is if I pretended to myself that she was retarded.

A real possibility, given what pellagra and hookworm can do to one, especially if one is a child. And her name was Prissy.

I think what is being lost in this discussion is that GWTW was a pretty crappy movie. And I assume the book was, too, because my wife loved it, and she was a fan of trashy bestsellers, the worse the better. Most of the main white characters were pretty awful cartoons, Rhett was just Gable playing Gable, Prissy was an idiot, and only Mammy stood out as a semi-fleshed-out character. Thus Hattie McDaniel’s Oscar.

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**Author:** ![Reddy\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/72 "2017-09-01T10:06:24Z")

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It’s actually a good movie 🙂 thankfully, the right to have a differing opinion hasn’t been rendered illegal - YET.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gone-with-the-wind-going-to-get-the-song-of-the-south-treatment/794769/73 "2017-09-01T10:58:30Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I think what is being lost in this discussion is that GWTW was a pretty crappy movie. And I assume the book was, too, because my wife loved it, and she was a fan of trashy bestsellers, the worse the better. Most of the main white characters were pretty awful cartoons, Rhett was just Gable playing Gable, Prissy was an idiot, and only Mammy stood out as a semi-fleshed-out character. Thus Hattie McDaniel’s Oscar.

I saw the movie in college (IOW, \>40 years ago), and I’m not sure if I’ve seen it since, so I’m in no position to judge it.

But I have re-read the book relatively recently, and IMHO it was a good story - though it would have been a hell of a lot better if the last half of the book hadn’t been as much an exceedingly dishonest tract on the evils of Reconstruction as a story about Scarlett, Rhett, Ashley, and Melanie.

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