# Gonzomax, you surprised and disappointed me. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028 "2009-03-02T17:09:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/1 "2009-03-02T17:09:21Z")
**Gonzomax** , you’re usually a pretty firmly left-wing poster, so perhaps I was mistaken in hanging the full spectrum of left-wing beliefs on you, but you really did surprise and disappoint me with [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508833). Seriously, describing the standard show cut for poodles as “faggy” (in the thread title, no less!) and “fagafied”? First of all, why is something fancy and impractical supposed to be gay? Second of all, I can guarantee you that the vast majority of owners of show poodles are heterosexual. Third of all, even if your characterization of the show cut as being typical of gay men were true, is there a particular reason to use the words you used? I find it hard to believe that you don’t understand just how kick-in-the-gut that word is when uttered or posted by a straight person. You wouldn’t characterize the frizzy natural coat of a poodle as “niggery”, would you? You wouldn’t characterize the curve of a parrot’s beak as “kikey”, would you? You need to think things through before you post, sir…if you were going for humor, you missed the target. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/2 "2009-03-02T17:18:48Z")
I was a little surprised by it too. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/3 "2009-03-02T17:23:44Z")
Yeah, that thread was totally gay. ---
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/4 "2009-03-02T17:29:57Z")
[http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/FTTD/N68~Drama-Queen-Posters.jpg](http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/FTTD/N68~Drama-Queen-Posters.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/5 "2009-03-02T17:32:19Z")
> [@Laudenum](#): > > [http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/FTTD/N68~Drama-Queen-Posters.jpg](http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/FTTD/N68~Drama-Queen-Posters.jpg) :dubious: Yeah, my Pit OP was the very worst form of drama queeniness ever seen in the Pit, I’m sure. Go regard yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/6 "2009-03-02T17:33:05Z")
Poodles again? Can’t you guys leave Tony Blair alone? Yeah, better terms for fancy poodle cuts are “trite”, “embarassing”, “nausea-inducing” etc. How about “prissy”? And what will **gonzo** say about [these poor tortured things](http://www.plantworld.net/en/products/index.php?parcat=&cat=86&prod=3129)? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/7 "2009-03-02T17:35:04Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > You need to think things through before you post, sir… You’re not very familiar with gonzomax’s posting style, are you? He is second only to the departed Handy for off-the-cuff-and-most-likely-to-be-completely-wrong posts in the history of this message board. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/8 "2009-03-02T17:37:41Z")
It’s a mistake, in my humble view, to feel that because a poster has “reliably left wing” views, he (or she) is a paragon of intelligence or consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/9 "2009-03-02T17:37:53Z")
I’m going to name my next parrot Kikey. Then I’ll teach him to say his name loudly just to see the reaction from people. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/10 "2009-03-02T17:45:10Z")
I’m more offended by “fagafied”… doesn’t everyone know by know that they’re born that way? ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/11 "2009-03-02T17:46:37Z")
> [@Laudenum](#): > > [http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/FTTD/N68~Drama-Queen-Posters.jpg](http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/FTTD/N68~Drama-Queen-Posters.jpg) Cute. Now, shove it up your ass. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/12 "2009-03-02T17:52:17Z")
> [@Lionne](#): > > I’m going to name my next parrot Kikey. Then I’ll teach him to say his name loudly just to see the reaction from people. 🙂 I had an online friend from Spain, in another forum, whose username was Kike. No, not the insulting term for Jew that your first reaction probably envisioned – it was pronounced “Kee-kay,” and was his little brother’s attempt to say his real name, Enrique, which he’d adopted as a unique nickname. Which reminds me, in a stream-of-consciousness way, of the girl I went to high school with whose surname was McQueer, and also of former San Diego Padres outfielder Ethan Faggett (who of course had a mostly unfabulous social life). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/13 "2009-03-02T17:56:52Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > It’s a mistake, in my humble view, to feel that because a poster has “reliably left wing” views, he (or she) is a paragon of intelligence or consideration. Indeed. Particularly in this case, where the reliably left wing poster has reliably and embarassingly imbecilic reasons for arriving at his views. **jayjay** , I don’t disagree with your pitting, but I am surprised that you’re surprised that the gonz said something stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/14 "2009-03-02T17:57:06Z")
A gay assassin in the book “The Eiger Sanction” had a small dog named Faggot. When an empty-headed woman inquired about this unusual name, the dog owner explained that it was because “he’s a bundle of nerves”. “Oh, how interesting!” the woman exclaimed. Somehow I don’t think that exchange made it to the movie version. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/15 "2009-03-02T18:04:45Z")
I’m not surprised that **gonzomax** said something stupid. I am mildly surprised that he said something that’s stupid in this specific manner. I am not particularly disappointed, though. Being disappointed requires one to expect something from the subject, and I stopped expecting anything useful from **gonzomax** years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/16 "2009-03-02T18:31:52Z")
So here’s a question… I grew up in the go-go 80s and 90s, where the proper slang for something lame or stupid was “gay”. I have no anti-homosexual feelings, and I completely understand how that would be construed as insulting to gay people. But I just can’t stop using it. I use the word “gay” all the time. This is gay, that’s gay, etc., etc. Strangely, I never use it to refer to people (even when they’re lame or stupid) and never use it to describe behavior that would be homosexual… So, is using “gay” hurtful to gay people? ETA: I never say “fag” or “faggot” unless I’m trying to be funny and refer to a cigarette that way… ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/17 "2009-03-02T18:35:50Z")
> [@Sateryn76](#): > > So here’s a question… > > I grew up in the go-go 80s and 90s, where the proper slang for something lame or stupid was “gay”. I have no anti-homosexual feelings, and I completely understand how that would be construed as insulting to gay people. > > But I just can’t stop using it. I use the word “gay” all the time. This is gay, that’s gay, etc., etc. Strangely, I never use it to refer to people (even when they’re lame or stupid) and never use it to describe behavior that would be homosexual… > > So, is using “gay” hurtful to gay people? > > ETA: I never say “fag” or “faggot” unless I’m trying to be funny and refer to a cigarette that way… Well think about it. When you say something is gay are you generally trying to put it down? Of course, you are never referring to something as gay as to compliment or in a neutral way, like saying something is red or green. It is meant in a derraugatory way toward whatever. It associates being gay with sojmething less than desirable. You never say, “That’s so gay.” if you want to compliment something, I presume. ---
**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/18 "2009-03-02T18:39:26Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Well think about it. When you say something is gay are you generally trying to put it down? Of course, you are never referring to something as gay as to compliment or in a neutral way, like saying something is red or green. It is meant in a derraugatory way toward whatever. It associates being gay with sojmething less than desirable. You never say, “That’s so gay.” if you want to compliment something, I presume. Right - I get that part. I was just wondering if a random gay person would hate me forever if I said something like “I can’t believe they’re charging $5 extra for popcorn butter - that’s gay.” That word is just so far disconnected from homosexuality for me, I have a hard time judging its actual offensive value. In the same way that gay used to = happy, for me, gay doesn’t = anything about homosexuality to me… ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/19 "2009-03-02T18:41:08Z")
Ray Charles could have seen this thread coming… ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/20 "2009-03-02T18:41:59Z")
The only thing that could make the OP post more ironic is if the letters va where added to the front of the OP’s username. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028.md?page=2)