# Gonzomax, you surprised and disappointed me. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028 "2009-03-02T17:09:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/261 "2009-03-12T03:31:52Z")
:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/262 "2009-03-12T03:39:03Z")
Okay, that’s an admittedly novel interpretation of “Some of my best friends are…” ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/263 "2009-03-12T04:32:41Z")
[QUOTE=gonzomax] Sorry I did not respond lately but I was watching the Gay and Lesbian Task force speakers on Keynote. I though Kate Clinton and Rea Carey were pretty good. didn’t you? [/QUOTE] Who? Sorry, I was watching monster trucks and scratching myself. I suppose though, in light of what you were watching, that you are ok after all…this obviously grants you the license to be as insulting to gays as you like. Carry on… -XT ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/264 "2009-03-12T04:55:58Z")
Next thread topics we can expect to see from **gonzomax** : - **Check out the kikey beak on this toucan!** - **Are really black bears called spook bears?** - **What do you put on Dago Bread?** ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/265 "2009-03-12T10:18:44Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > :rolleyes: That’s an appropriate response, certainly, but what did you expect out of gonzo? He doesn’t believe _arithmetic_, for God’s sake, so how do you expect him to navigate a subject with any sort of nuance? > [@jayjay](#): > > Okay, that’s an admittedly novel interpretation of “Some of my best friends are…” Heh. “I watch gay people on TV”? Well, _I’ve_ seen a few snippets of _Will and Grace_ as I was channel surfing, plus I watched an entire episode of _Queer Eye for the Straight Guy_. What does that buy me in gay cred? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/266 "2009-03-12T10:45:34Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > I though Kate Clinton and Rea Carey were pretty good. didn’t you? What do you think they would have said if you told them you watched their speeches with your faggy-looking poodle? ---
**Author:** ![Bamboo\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@Bamboo\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bamboo_Boy)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/267 "2009-03-12T10:46:03Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I think it’s hilarious that you’re too stupid to realize that I’m not complaining about the fucking DOGS! I’m complaining about your choice of words. The dogs can have NFL team names shaved into their fur for all I care. They’re irrelevant. I’m not pitting you for the goddamn dogs. I’m reading this thread for the first time, I’m not done yet, but I have to jump in, even if it might be bad form. I just can’t stop myself. The Titanic caliber of stupid is burning a hole in my soul. Talk about obtuse. I HAVE to wonder if it’s willful. Add “Nigger rigged” to the list of things that should be perfectly acceptable to Gonzomax. “Cause see, I was talking about how crappy this is. Not about black people!” The mind reels. Well, I’m kidding myself I guess, if I think the world will be free of this kind of industrial grade ignorance and stupidity anytime soon… I wanted to address how stupid it was for Gonzomax to obliquely insult Jayjay with the Drama Queen link, but I just don’t know where to begin. It’s as though the stupid is so big, it makes the task like picking up a really big ball when your hand is too small. Oh and I send my thanks as well to Jayjay for starting this thread. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/268 "2009-03-12T12:05:19Z")
> [@Bamboo\_Boy](#): > > I wanted to address how stupid it was for Gonzomax to obliquely insult Jayjay with the Drama Queen link, but I just don’t know where to begin. It’s as though the stupid is so big, it makes the task like picking up a really big ball when your hand is too small. > > Oh and I send my thanks as well to Jayjay for starting this thread. You’re welcome! And to be absolutely fair, it wasn’t **gonzomax** who posted the drama queen link, it was **Laudenum**. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/269 "2009-03-12T14:46:28Z")
On Craig Fergusons monologue yesterday he was talking about pyramid building saying that pyramids are not built any more. He said except the Luxor which was a pyramid built by a homosexual designer. Can you imagine the audience laughed? Oh, the shame of it. Note of course he said homosexual. He was referring to a group of people. When I said faggy ,I was referring to a style which does not include all gays. It just includes people of all types,some men ,some women and some gays who like a style which is clearly identifiable. This thread is totally bogus. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/270 "2009-03-12T14:51:03Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Note of course he said homosexual. He was referring to a group of people. When I said faggy ,I was referring to a style which does not include all gays. It just includes people of all types,some men ,some women and some gays who like a style which is clearly identifiable. This thread is totally bogus. I’m probably banging my head against a brick wall but it sounds like you’re a little closer to the point here. Would you like to describe the faggy style without using the word faggy? For bonus points, maybe you can explain why it’s called faggy and how that usage is divorced from the most common meaning of faggot, which is a slur against gays. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/271 "2009-03-12T15:43:30Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > On Craig Fergusons monologue yesterday he was talking about pyramid building saying that pyramids are not built any more. He said except the Luxor which was a pyramid built by a homosexual designer. Can you imagine the audience laughed? Oh, the shame of it. > Note of course he said homosexual. He was referring to a group of people. When I said faggy ,I was referring to a style which does not include all gays. It just includes people of all types,some men ,some women and some gays who like a style which is clearly identifiable. This thread is totally bogus. Since you’ve clearly decided to ignore the “When in a hole, stop digging” advice, please give my regards to the Earth’s core. Thanx. ---
**Author:** ![Bamboo\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@Bamboo\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bamboo_Boy)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/272 "2009-03-12T15:58:22Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > You’re welcome! And to be absolutely fair, it wasn’t **gonzomax** who posted the drama queen link, it was **Laudenum**. Oops. My mistake. I stand corrected. I think my eyes were watering and unfocused from all the concentrated obtuseness. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/273 "2009-03-12T17:30:19Z")
> [@Bamboo\_Boy](#): > > Oops. My mistake. I stand corrected. > > I think my eyes were watering and unfocused from all the concentrated obtuseness. Sure it couldn’t be your stupidity ,could it? Keep the blame for that transgression where it belongs. On you. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/274 "2009-03-12T18:00:43Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I’m probably banging my head against a brick wall but it sounds like you’re a little closer to the point here. Would you like to describe the faggy style without using the word faggy? For bonus points, maybe you can explain why it’s called faggy and how that usage is divorced from the most common meaning of faggot, which is a slur against gays. I have several times. Faggy is of or similar to an identifiable set of decoration that does not take with it any sexual terms. It refers to a clearly identifiable style. Tis nothing but a style of decor and clothing. If you had any sense of honesty ,you would admit you know what the style is. Then tell me that you think of gay. I do not. It is a style that people from all categories like or dislike. Sorry it counters your petty preconceptions. For bonus point tell me why you have to ascribe the term to a subset of gays. I do not have that problem. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/275 "2009-03-12T18:10:32Z")
This is, quite seriously, the first time I’ve heard “faggy” used as a _serious_ name for a _clothing style_. “And today we have a special treat from Prada coming up the walkway. This is the latest in her new line of summer fagwear…” ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/276 "2009-03-12T18:10:54Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > For bonus point tell me why you have to ascribe the term to a subset of gays. I do not have that problem. Fine - let’s all agree that the term “faggy” refers to this style (even though you made it up just last week). Now, just tell us the ORIGIN of this word (ignoring the fact that you made it up last week). ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/277 "2009-03-12T18:12:59Z")
Yes, five seasons of Project Runway under my belt and I’ve never heard “faggy” as a recognized fashion style. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/278 "2009-03-12T18:51:28Z")
[QUOTE=gonzomax] Sure it couldn’t be your stupidity ,could it? Keep the blame for that transgression where it belongs. On you. [/QUOTE] At least s/he could admit they were wrong. You are totally incapable of similar self analysis of your positions. > [@](#): > > Faggy is of or similar to an identifiable set of decoration that does not take with it any sexual terms. Really? Ok, so it has nothing to do with sexual orientation, it simply identifies decorative style without reference? You are seriously contending this? > [@](#): > > Tis nothing but a style of decor and clothing. And this supposed style has nothing to do with the sexual orientation of the people supposedly wearing or using it? What style is this exactly? Could you provide some details? Obviously dressing up poodles fits this ‘style’ somehow…but what else is part of it? Since you are making up your own usage of the term you need to define it. > [@](#): > > If you had any sense of honesty ,you would admit you know what the style is. If you had the brains of a nat and the same honesty you’d admit that this ‘style’ had DEFINITE sexual connotations…since it’s refering to pre-conceptions of how homosexuals supposedly dress and style themselves. But you don’t have the brains of a nat, nor are you honest…unfortunately. You are stuborn and stupid and you simply won’t let go of this. > [@](#): > > It is a style that people from all categories like or dislike. But it’s not a style that all people from all categories supposedly USE…very specific types of people DO (supposedly) use it, and it was those people you were refering too with your comment. Your torturous logic here is similar to saying ‘Well, you know, everyone eats fried chicken and collard greens. So, when I refered to the food as “niggerlike” I wasn’t being prejudice…everyone knows this is simply a ‘type’ of food that blacks eat. I eat it too, as do people from all categories’. I know YOU don’t get this…but that’s how most of US see it. > [@](#): > > For bonus point tell me why you have to ascribe the term to a subset of gays. Um…because that’s where the term derives from? -XT ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/279 "2009-03-12T21:15:21Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > This is, quite seriously, the first time I’ve heard “faggy” used as a _serious_ name for a _clothing style_. > > “And today we have a special treat from Prada coming up the walkway. This is the latest in her new line of summer fagwear…” Don’t be dishonest. You have heard the description of something looking faggy. Do you have an understanding what the characteristics it would have? Now tell me you do not. Then ask someone next to you because the rest of the world does. This thread has been full of self righteous distortion. Come back when you want to be honest. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/280 "2009-03-12T21:26:44Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Don’t be dishonest. You have heard the description of something looking faggy. Do you have an understanding what the characteristics it would have? Now tell me you do not. Then ask someone next to you because the rest of the world does. This thread has been full of self righteous distortion. Come back when you want to be honest. Yes, I have heard something called faggy. By bigots and gays making fun of themselves and nobody else. I’m not being dishonest at all when I tell you that I have never, ever heard it used in any way except to deprecate gays. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028.md?page=15)