# Gonzomax, you surprised and disappointed me. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028 "2009-03-02T17:09:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/281 "2009-03-12T22:24:45Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > When I said faggy ,I was referring to a style which does not include all gays. Preach it brother! I get the same reaction when I try to explain to people that when I say nigger, I’m referring to a lifestyle that doesn’t include all black people. I wonder why that could possibly be.:rolleyes: Ah well, I’m off to the mall to buy some new clothes. I’ll have to ask the salespeople where the faggy section is. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/282 "2009-03-12T23:12:50Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > What do you think they would have said if you told them you watched their speeches with your faggy-looking poodle? I have beagles..and a cat. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/283 "2009-03-12T23:22:13Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > I have beagles..and a cat. Are they faggy? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/284 "2009-03-13T00:31:14Z")
Duh. Cats are always faggy. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/285 "2009-03-13T00:38:39Z")
I think I see how this is going to end. The thread goes on and on for a ridiculously long time, ultimatly resulting in a pointless or absurd punchline. You know, a faggy dog story. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/286 "2009-03-13T00:43:12Z")
Thread closed, game over. **Miller** wins. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/287 "2009-03-13T02:38:51Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Yes, five seasons of Project Runway under my belt and I’ve never heard “faggy” as a recognized fashion style. Well, clearly it’s because faggy is so yesterday. Douchey is the new faggy, see. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/288 "2009-03-13T05:21:21Z")
[Pad: The Guide to Ultra-Living - Matt Maranian - Google Books](http://books.google.com/books?id=Bp5IakYS-8UC&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=Faggy+decor&source=bl&ots=vwl4o6WTtD&sig=RTEY6xoqvX7_DaK1hgAq3FZ-aIk&hl=en&ei=S-y5SfG4FaOwMevz-aII&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result) Not quite a universal idea that a faggy decor is not recognizable. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/289 "2009-03-13T05:29:11Z")
[http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/terence-blacker/terence-blacker-save-us-from-this-unisex-uniformity-452866.html](http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/terence-blacker/terence-blacker-save-us-from-this-unisex-uniformity-452866.html) Nixon description . ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/290 "2009-03-13T06:14:09Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I think I see how this is going to end. The thread goes on and on for a ridiculously long time, ultimatly resulting in a pointless or absurd punchline. > > You know, a faggy dog story. I knew this dog once. He kept trying to hump my leg all the time, no matter now much I smacked him away or tried to dissuade him from it. Finally, one day in utter frustration I screamed at the top of my lungs “what is your problem dog?” To which, and much to my surprise the dog suddenly said in clear English, “Dude, I’m a faggy dog and the only male leg around is yours. Duh!” The irony is that he was a very butch dog, he didn’t look faggy at all! He wasn’t even a poodle spray painted pink! Pointless, absurd and unfunny enough? Oh yeah, the salespeople at the mall gave me wierd looks when I asked where the faggy section is. How do you deal with that **Gonzo**? ---
**Author:** ![Bamboo\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@Bamboo\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bamboo_Boy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/291 "2009-03-13T10:25:36Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Sure it couldn’t be your stupidity ,could it? Keep the blame for that transgression where it belongs. On you. No I don’t think it could, actually…I made the mistake of attributing something to you, and when it was pointed out to me that I was in error, I graciously accepted it and set the record straight with humility. I realized I was wrong and did the grown-up thing. You know, like you seem INCAPABLE of doing. So careless error on my part, yes. Eye watering stupidity? Nope, that’s your gig, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/292 "2009-03-13T10:32:13Z")
Is ‘I’m sorry’ that difficult for him to say. Leaping over logic and piling up ignorance like this seems like so much more work. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/293 "2009-03-13T10:37:19Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/terence-blacker/terence-blacker-save-us-from-this-unisex-uniformity-452866.html](http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/terence-blacker/terence-blacker-save-us-from-this-unisex-uniformity-452866.html) Nixon description . As usual I don’t think you’re reading your own cites. Nixon was using the word as a slur _because that’s what it is_. Nixon was no friend of gays. Or Jews, blacks, or a lot of other people. Please, borrow some other words from him. I’ve always wanted to see what it would have been like if Nixon showed up on the SDMB - although even in his current condition he’d defend himself better than you have. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/294 "2009-03-13T14:43:59Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/terence-blacker/terence-blacker-save-us-from-this-unisex-uniformity-452866.html](http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/terence-blacker/terence-blacker-save-us-from-this-unisex-uniformity-452866.html) Nixon description . As Marley has also noted, Nixon isn’t talking about decor. Here’s the [full quote](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove#Quotations): “The Bohemian Grove, that I attend from time to time — the Easterners and the others come there — but it is the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine, that San Francisco crowd that goes in there; it’s just terrible! I mean I won’t shake hands with anybody from San Francisco.” You have now, all by yourself, associated the word ‘faggy’ with gays in a pejorative manner. Congratulations, you have finally gotten the point. It’s a little on the late side, but “Ooops! My bad. I should not have used that word,” would be wise. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/295 "2009-03-13T14:47:47Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [Pad: The Guide to Ultra-Living - Matt Maranian - Google Books](http://books.google.com/books?id=Bp5IakYS-8UC&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=Faggy+decor&source=bl&ots=vwl4o6WTtD&sig=RTEY6xoqvX7_DaK1hgAq3FZ-aIk&hl=en&ei=S-y5SfG4FaOwMevz-aII&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result) Not quite a universal idea that a faggy decor is not recognizable. Except in this case, the homosexual is calling his homo-erotic art faggy. Hmm…I’m sensing a theme here. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/296 "2009-03-13T14:56:36Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Except in this case, the homosexual is calling his homo-erotic art faggy. Hmm…I’m sensing a theme here. [http://www.physics.drexel.edu/~goldberg/princeton/states/MA.html](http://www.physics.drexel.edu/~goldberg/princeton/states/MA.html) How does this fit your preconceptions? ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/297 "2009-03-13T15:06:38Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [http://www.physics.drexel.edu/~goldberg/princeton/states/MA.html](http://www.physics.drexel.edu/~goldberg/princeton/states/MA.html) How does this fit your preconceptions? I’m not sure, but I will note that this is a lot of information to have about the guy that makes your gin and tonic: “Eclectic menu featuring Southern cuisine. Good selection of beer, served by a **bulimic homosexual bartender**.” I’m not sure what you’re getting at, but it’s safe to say, your drive-by links intrigue me. ETA: Perhaps I should answer your question. Without knowing the author, I would say he’s a homophobe based on the usage of the term ‘faggy’ and the out-of-left-field description of the bartender at the Blue Diner in Boston. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/298 "2009-03-13T15:10:52Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Oh yeah, the salespeople at the mall gave me wierd looks when I asked where the faggy section is. How do you deal with that **Gonzo**? It’s between the nigger and kike sections, of course. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/299 "2009-03-13T15:29:01Z")
[QUOTE=gonzomax] How does this fit your preconceptions? [/QUOTE] It fits perfectly to be honest…almost a text book case in fact. Let’s see: We have the link itself, with the URL instead of a descriptive term (indicating that, as with all things mentioned to you, you STILL are incapable of using the Insert Link button correctly). Then there is the drive by nature of your link…pretty much classic. No description of what we are supposed to see in this link that you did (if you saw anything…I think you just toss in some terms in Google then hit I’m Feeling Lucky and post whatever comes up) with your standard cryptic comment indicating that YOU got something out of the link. On inspection of the link though it’s fairly obvious that either you didn’t read it or you didn’t understand what you DID read. Again, classic gonzo. So…did it meet my preconceptions? ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY! -XT ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028/300 "2009-03-13T15:29:15Z")
Even funnier, the people using “faggy” to describe decor aren’t using any unified standards, at all, to do so. For one, having mauve and jade trim makes a place like unto one of them thar faggots. For the other, homoerotic art itself is “faggy”. So, evidently, homoeroticism and the colors mauve and/or jade (perhaps just when used as trim) can clearly be defined as part of the faggy school of design. I suppose in Gonzlandia, we’ve had Bauhaus, Deconstructivism, Formalism, Modernism, Structuralism, Postmodernism and Faggotism. Or, in Gonz Speak: [Urban Dictionary: niggered out](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=niggered%20out) see wut, I mean [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gonzomax-you-surprised-and-disappointed-me/488028.md?page=16)