# Good Advice found in fiction (possible spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 5, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213 "2006-11-05T22:15:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/21 "2006-11-09T01:21:46Z")

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from the **Hitchhiker’s** series

Don’t Panic!

Never drink more than two Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters unless you are a thirty-ton mega-elephant with bronchial pneumonia

Anyone capable of being made President should be on no account allowed to do the job  
the purpose of the President is not to wield power, but to draw attention _away_ from it

Please do not press this button again!

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**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/22 "2006-11-10T13:18:28Z")

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Good ones!

From _A Song of Ice and Fire_, book three I think:

“A man can own a woman or he can own a knife, but not both”. Said by a wildling girl, who’d know.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/23 "2006-11-10T16:23:04Z")

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Jane Austen was only being partially ironic when she wrote:

"She was heartily ashamed of her ignorance. A misplaced shame. Where people wish to attach, they should always be ignorant. To come with a well-informed mind is to come with an inability of administering to the vanity of others, which a sensible person would always wish to avoid. A woman especially, if she have the misfortune of knowing anything, should conceal it as well as she can.

The advantages of natural folly in a beautiful girl have been already set forth by the capital pen of a sister author; – and to her treatment of the subject I will only add, in justice to men, that though to the larger and more trifling part of the sex, imbecility in females is a great enhancement of their personal charms, there is a portion of them too reasonable and too well informed themselves to desire anything more in woman than ignorance."

I wish I had known this when I was younger. I was always too much of a know-it-all and if I had pretended to be a dummy I’m sure guys would have liked me more.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/24 "2006-11-10T16:56:11Z")

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[QUOTE=teela brown]  
I wish I had known this when I was younger. I was always too much of a know-it-all and if I had pretended to be a dummy I’m sure guys would have liked me more.  
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But they would be the sort of men that you are better staying away from. A man who’s looking for dummy is either looking for a quick screw he can walk away from afterward, or is an abuser looking for someone who can’t fight back. Attracting a man by playing dumb IMHO is like trying to attract a pet by walking into a forest with raw meat tied around your neck. Whatever you find probably won’t be all cuddly and friendly.

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**Author:** ![Sonia\_Montdore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Sonia\_Montdore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sonia_Montdore)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/25 "2006-11-10T19:23:32Z")

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“There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch” are wise words from a Robert A. Heinlein novel. Though I’ve never forgotten the advice, I have, alas, forgotten which novel it appears in - _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_, maybe? **TANSTAAFL** , can you clarify?

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**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/26 "2006-11-10T20:36:31Z")

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“Cease to lament for that thou canst not help, and study help for that which thou lament’st.” (Willy Shakespeare, Two Gentlemen of Verona.)

Or, if you can fix it, do it; if you can’t fix it, stop fretting about it. There’s been many a time I’ve had to repeat that to myself to calm down and/or stop chewing my nails to the quick. It helps that it scans. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/27 "2006-11-10T20:37:38Z")

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“Never start a land war in Asia.” I’ve lived my entire life by that motto.

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/28 "2006-11-10T20:44:13Z")

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More Heinlein from _Starship Troopers_\*: “Never pass up a good thing.”

The hard part is telling a good thing apart from what looks like a good thing but that will come back to bite you in the ass.

\*I know it was in the movie; can’t remember if it was in the book.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/29 "2006-11-10T20:48:08Z")

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[QUOTE=teela brown]

I wish I had known this when I was younger. I was always too much of a know-it-all and if I had pretended to be a dummy I’m sure guys would have liked me more.  
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So your advice is to pretend to be someone you’re not so boys would like you? :dubious:

I am considered smart. I took AP courses in school and consistenly made honor roll. People will not play Trivial Pursuit with me more than once. I can hold my end in a debate. And I stood out in a crowd so Ivylad, used to blonde bimbos with big chests who would sleep with him on the first date, was intrigued.

We’ve been married 17 years.

Trust me, be smart. The good guys are the ones who will appreciate your intelligence. The others can go hang.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/30 "2006-11-10T20:49:32Z")

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Aaarggh! Bitten in the ass by Guadere’s Law!

[del]consistenly[/del]

_consistently_

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/31 "2006-11-10T21:44:11Z")

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Robert Heinlein, in _Time Enough For Love_, included several interludes containing excerpts from the notebooks of Lazarus Long. Many of them are noteworthy and wonderful advice, including:

[ul]  
[li]Always store beer in a dark place.[/li][li]Rub her feet.[/li][li]If it can’t be expressed in figures, it is not science; it is opinion.[/li][li]It is better to copulate than never. ;)[/li][li]Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.[/li][li]Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together. Often the very young, the untraveled, the naive, the unsophisticated deplore these formalities as “empty,” “meaningless,” or “dishonest,” and scorn to use them. No matter how “pure” their motives, they thereby throw sand into machinery that does not work too well at best.[/li][/ul]  
The second on that list is advice that can take you through many difficult situations in life.

I’m not sure if this one counts as “advice” under the OPs definition, but it’s a great quote from the same source:  
[ul]  
[li]Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house.[/li][/ul]

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/32 "2006-11-10T23:30:43Z")

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Larry Niven likes to dish out philosophical life-guidance advice and I’m ashamed to say that I have been a sucker for some of it. I suspect some of it is not even original to him, but that’s where I got it; two items that spring to mind are:

“You have to do this, so why not now?” (which I find practically useful for stopping procrastination)

(paraphrasing)“Never waste calories; if you must get fat, don’t achieve it using inferior food”

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**Author:** ![Arien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arien)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/33 "2006-11-11T00:05:39Z")

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Don’t! Date! Robots!

(From Futurama.)

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/34 "2006-11-11T10:13:00Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]  
Aaarggh! Bitten in the ass by Guadere’s Law!

[del]consistenly[/del]

_consistently_  
[/QUOTE]

/me snertles at the multi-honor-roll student bragging about her intelligence. 😃

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/35 "2006-11-11T11:31:56Z")

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"The first sign of a nervous breakdown is when you start thinking your work is terribly important. "—Milo Bloom

One of the few gems of fiction quotes that I’ve collected that qualifies as A) “Advice,” B) “Under a paragraph long,” and C) “Doesn’t make Ran sound like a psychopath.”

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**Author:** ![shefDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@shefDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shefDave)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/36 "2006-11-11T11:49:17Z")

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“Pain, or damage, don’t end the world. Or despair. Or fuckin’ beatings. The world ends when you’re dead. Until then, you’ve got a lot more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back.”

- Al Swearengen in _Deadwood_

One of life’s harder lessons.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/37 "2006-11-11T12:01:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
/me snertles at the multi-honor-roll student bragging about her intelligence. 😃  
[/QUOTE]

Yes, I was a nerd. I’m proud of it. I sat in the front of the class, did my homework on Friday nights, and trooped down to the guidance office (as did other nerds) to get our class rankings once the report cards were posted.

Be kind to nerds. You will end up working for one some day. 😛

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/38 "2006-11-11T12:53:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Never waste calories; if you must get fat, don’t achieve it using inferior food"

I like this one.

Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

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**Author:** ![Sonia\_Montdore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Sonia\_Montdore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sonia_Montdore)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/39 "2006-11-11T21:32:29Z")

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“Beware of enterprises that require new clothing” - Henry David Thoreau.

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**Author:** ![Sonia\_Montdore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Sonia\_Montdore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sonia_Montdore)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-advice-found-in-fiction-possible-spoilers/379213/40 "2006-11-11T21:34:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Sonia Montdore]  
“Beware of enterprises that require new clothing” - Henry David Thoreau.  
[/QUOTE]

Oops, just realized the OP calls for advice given in _fiction_. HDT quote above doesn’t count. Please disregard.

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