# Good Alive:  The Evil Dead forbidden thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 7, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306 "2010-10-07T00:11:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/121 "2010-10-22T14:36:58Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Oh, what the hell. The Show must go on!
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> /in

Bravo! PM coming your way.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/122 "2010-10-22T14:38:12Z")

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> [@Doctor\_Who](#):
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> Also, just to back it up… Mahaloth read this. This is information that other game participants are not privy to unless they also snuck into the forbidden thread. To me, that’s cheating. He has information he should not have.

Well, strictly speaking, that post should not have appeared in the Forbidden Thread. Forbidden Thread is for unspoiled discussion. The exchange between storyteller and peeker was predicated on spoiled information.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/123 "2010-10-22T14:44:24Z")

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God do I ever wish that I could sub back in right now.

Oh, wait, except that I’d be subbing in as Mahaloth. Still, I’d love to give them a telling off for their ridiculous PM nitpicking. How many times has that actually turned up scum, compared to the number of times a townie has been lynched because “mod X would never write anything with a comma splice!”

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/124 "2010-10-22T14:51:26Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> Oh, wait, except that I’d be subbing in as Mahaloth.

It’s probably a good thing that I’m not subbing back in if that’s the extent of my reading comprehension right now. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/125 "2010-10-22T15:02:11Z")

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> [@Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2086):
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> The Post Count that Maha gave us for storyteller still doesn’t add up. I just looked now (post count doesn’t show in the thread, but is listed under a user’s profile) and story’s post count is 2958. Maha’s PM shows story’s post count at 2955 back on October 4. He has most definitely made more than 3 posts since then (though it seems quite plausible that 2955 was story’s post count at the time Maha made his post). Even if the member/guest problem can be explained by assuming story’s membership lapsed within the last couple days, I see no way the post count in the PM can be genuine.

FFS people, actually check your PMs before posting ridiculous things like this. The post count you see in any post or PM is always the **current** post count, not the post count at the time that the post was made/PM was sent. Five seconds of checking an old PM would confirm this.

I really hate being dead.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/126 "2010-10-22T15:07:26Z")

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Confirmation bias at its best and most blatant.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/127 "2010-10-22T15:12:24Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Confirmation bias at its best and most blatant.

In light of Normal’s case, I really question whether this is genuine confirmation bias or Plankton consciously trying to spin the facts in favour of the result that he wants.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/128 "2010-10-22T15:35:13Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Well, strictly speaking, that post should not have appeared in the Forbidden Thread. Forbidden Thread is for unspoiled discussion. The exchange between storyteller and peeker was predicated on spoiled information.

first, i am not spoiled in any way other than as my capacity as a dead scum.

second, i don’t think anything i said had anything to do with that knowledge. merely, a universal truism that i try to follow when i am scum. namely that as scum i tend to find it prudent not to give out any information unless it is going to save your ass.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/129 "2010-10-22T15:50:31Z")

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I should have said “exchange” instead of “post.”  
I did not mean to imply that peeker did something out of line.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/130 "2010-10-22T16:50:16Z")

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If it weren’t for **storyteller** ’s post that his membership status had in fact changed, I’d be viewing that as conclusive evidence against **Mahaloth** , because really, who would expect that something like his membership status changing would _just happen_ to happen in that very narrow window between **Mahaloth** posting that and it being noticed? Yeah, a Scum could have very easily avoided that pitfall, but could also have fallen into it somehow, and there’s no chance at all a truthful player could have screwed up that way.

But then **storyteller** made his post. Huh. Well, coincidences happen.

And as an aside, he’s going to have a really hard time continuing to moderate unless he re-ups. The guest PM box is much smaller than for a member.

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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/131 "2010-10-22T18:00:46Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> Hey, **peek** -
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> Without spoiling much, the Scum have a critical piece of information about a particular player that they have chosen not to expose. You could have exposed it during your own swan song, and Telcontar could do it now, but so far it hasn’t happened. Can you shed any light on this, because it’s frankly baffling to me.

Give me access to the spoiled forum and I’ll explain it 🙂

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/132 "2010-10-22T19:56:49Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And as an aside, he’s going to have a really hard time continuing to moderate unless he re-ups. The guest PM box is much smaller than for a member.

I didn’t know this.

If someone in the game makes this connection then they should be able to see in-game evidence of storyteller’s status having changed recently. During the Great Book PM Spamming of Day Two, storyteller explicitly references the copious number of PM’s received. Since multiple players have indicated they asked to steal the book and presumably none of them had their PM bounce, that is credible evidence that during Day Two storyteller was a “member” but obviously now he is not. So his switching status after Mahaloth cut and paste is absolutely plausible!

Of course storyteller saying so works too, which was the best move given the circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/133 "2010-10-24T20:19:50Z")

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OK, so I think we can now pretty safely call **Drain Bead** confirmed. The only plausible explanations for the skipped Night are her spell, or a power from the book, but none of the book power descriptions look like a match, and besides, it’s currently presumed to be in the hands of Scum. And I can’t imagine a Scum being given the power to skip a Night, since it’d almost always hurt them more than it helped (and in the rare case where it would help them, they wouldn’t know that in advance).

In other news, I’ve now created [my wiki page](http://mafiagameswiki.com/mafiaWiki/Chronos) and fleshed out the one for [the Cecil Pond game](http://mafiagameswiki.com/mafiaWiki/Cecil_Pond). So you’uns can go ahead and vandalize them now.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/134 "2010-10-24T20:39:10Z")

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I just want to point out that storyteller did not create the forbidden thread so I’m not surprised that he won’t modkill players for reading it.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/135 "2010-10-24T22:54:28Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And I can’t imagine a Scum being given the power to skip a Night, since it’d almost always hurt them more than it helped (and in the rare case where it would help them, they wouldn’t know that in advance).

In Marvel Mafia story gave the scum several powers that were way more pro-Town than they were pro-scum, to give them the option to use them to look Townie.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/136 "2010-10-25T17:02:11Z")

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**Drain Bead** ’s spell is sounding more and more like the Dread Forgetting to me…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/137 "2010-10-25T17:47:50Z")

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I’m not seeing that, myself. The book curses appear to all be targeted. And it appears to have also negated other powers, not just those that have a “victim”. I think it’s _very_ safe to say that whatever it was was a power of **Drain Bead** ’s; the only question is whether that’s a Town power or a Scum one.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/138 "2010-10-25T18:52:24Z")

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Mrs. McGinty’s overreaction to the minuscule amount of pressure that he’s getting looks really suspicious to me. It reminds me of my reaction to the votes I picked up in Cecil Pond because I was the only unknown(compared to something like 9 known town) to vote for a scum player. It was really frustrating to me that the only suspicions that I picked up(besides story’s) were for doing an unambiguously pro-Town thing. McGinty seems way to focused on the fact that she’s not getting pro-Town cred for going after peeker, and that doesn’t strike me as being a townie reaction.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/139 "2010-10-25T19:43:31Z")

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Yeah, I had a sort of vague Town hunch on her (I use the feminine pronoun because she chose a clearly feminine name) until this morning, but this whole business of “Poor innocent me, being picked on unjustly by everybody” really rubs me the wrong way, too. I’d be worried if I were Town and I _wasn’t_ getting that amount of pressure. Anyone who’s not yet confirmed should have some pressure put on them; that’s the nature of the game.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-alive-the-evil-dead-forbidden-thread/556306/140 "2010-10-26T06:09:09Z")

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I’m spoiled now, so I’ll stay out of this, but I’m really curious to see your answers to this question:

Who do you think is scum? Why?

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