# Good Candidate For Rapture **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 28, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143 "2011-06-28T14:59:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/1 "2011-06-28T14:59:12Z")
Not sure even where to begin with [this](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43562975): > [@](#): > > The motive in a workplace shooting in Eugene is reportedly the ribbing one employee took from a co-worker after the predicted May 21 rapture failed to occur. > The mother of the victim told The Register Guard that her son said Dale O’Callaghan took it personally when he was needled about his belief that he would be taken to heaven by the return of Jesus Christ… O’Callaghan had expected to be taken up in the rapture. > The 39-year-old O’Callaghan is held in the Lane County Jail on an assault charge. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/2 "2011-06-28T16:04:16Z")
Well, he pretty much took himself out of the running if it happens in the future, now hasn’t he? Must have missed the one about “turning the other cheek.” ---
**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/3 "2011-06-28T17:05:06Z")
I’m kind of surprised we haven’t heard more about this kind of thing. These seem to be the kind of people who wouldn’t take kindly to someone pointing out, however delicately, that they were wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/4 "2011-06-28T17:25:37Z")
At least the guy who was shot lived. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/5 "2011-06-28T18:08:50Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Well, he pretty much took himself out of the running if it happens in the future, now hasn’t he? Must have missed the one about “turning the other cheek.” I think Rapture believers are all sola fide. If he thinks he was doing God’s will… ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/6 "2011-06-30T04:49:25Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I think Rapture believers are all sola fide. If he thinks he was doing God’s will… I can almost guarantee that Rapture believers do not understand Latin. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/7 "2011-06-30T05:06:50Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Well, he pretty much took himself out of the running if it happens in the future, now hasn’t he? Must have missed the one about “turning the other cheek.” Or, “Love thy neighbor as thyself”, or even, “Thou shall not murder”. The shooter used deadly force after all, even if the victim lived. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/8 "2011-07-05T07:20:45Z")
[Really!](http://www.kptv.com/story/14988967/rapture-ribbing-led-to-shooting-at-eugene-workplace) (perp photo alone makes link worth clicking) > [@](#): > > The motive in a workplace shooting in Eugene may be the ribbing one employee took from a co-worker after the predicted May 21 rapture failed to occur. > > The mother of the victim told The Register Guard that her son said Dale O’Callaghan took it personally when he was needled about his belief that he would be taken to heaven by the return of Jesus Christ. > > Eugene police say O’Callaghan shot Jerry Andrews on Friday morning at LHM Hydraulics, where they worked. Andrews suffered a fractured shoulder. > > Police say O’Callaghan was still at the business when they arrived just before 7 a.m. > > His mother, Robin O’Brien, says her son didn’t want to speak with a reporter about the shooting, but she said O’Callaghan had expected to be taken up in the rapture. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/9 "2011-07-05T11:12:31Z")
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/10 "2011-07-05T11:23:15Z")
> [@astro](#): > > [Really!](http://www.kptv.com/story/14988967/rapture-ribbing-led-to-shooting-at-eugene-workplace) (perp photo alone makes link worth clicking) [Previous thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=614251) - although your link has the picture and the old one doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/11 "2011-07-05T11:30:52Z")
Merged threads. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/12 "2011-07-05T11:53:02Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I think Rapture believers are all sola fide. If he thinks he was doing God’s will… They are, but they have different meanings to “salvation by faith alone.” For some, like the one I grew up in, faith is sufficient, but sinning indicates a lack of faith, and you must confess to be put back into God’s grace. Not all _sola fide_ churches are also “Once saved, always saved.” ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-candidate-for-rapture/587143/13 "2011-07-05T12:15:25Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I can almost guarantee that Rapture believers do not understand Latin. You are certainly wrong. I believed in the Rapture from 1976-1982. In that time, I took two years of Latin in high school & two in college. Anyone know studied anything about the Reformation would know about “sola fide” even if they didn’t know Latin. And to that point, that commenter has obviously never met a Pentecostal Holiness type. Many of them tend to restrict the Rapture to really committed Christians, while those who live by looser standards than they do may be saved but won’t go up on the first lift-up.