# Good day everyone. I have a question about hoop snakes. This is important. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [September 16, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858 "2012-09-16T07:35:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/61 "2012-09-17T13:09:37Z")
This is important. There are other strange creatures living in British Columbia other than hoop snakes and die-hard Socreds.[**The tree octopus**](http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/), for instance. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/62 "2012-09-17T13:24:28Z")
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**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/63 "2012-09-17T13:25:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I’m sorry, but this isn’t one of those “Lie to me to reenforce my woo, and I’ll lie to you to reenforce yours” type of message boards. say what??..:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/64 "2012-09-17T13:35:34Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > Yeah, he’ll take you out to hunt for the “hoop snake” and as soon as you’re in an isolated location, it’s organ-harvesting time. Who do you think he’s talking to on the phone? The guy with the dry ice and motorcycle. If you’re lucky. like i said, it’s not me who’s gonna hunt the hoop snake but them. My part is to confirm whether the reward still exist to this day, and if so, then I just have to know how to claim it supposing they captured the snake. If there is no reward, there will be no hunt. I’m not going to participate in the hunt but them.That’s all. Whether it’s a guy with the dry ice and motorcycle or an alchemist or a snake oil peddler or anybody is not for me to know. Until I can confirm about the reward, then they will not hunt it yet. If there’s anyone here who knows how can I contact any associates of Raymond Ditmars or has a knowledge about the reward, then please message me. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/65 "2012-09-17T13:39:26Z")
> [@Kenm](#): > > This is important. There are other strange creatures living in British Columbia other than hoop snakes and die-hard Socreds.[**The tree octopus**](http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/), for instance. –so are you implying that hoop snakes really exist in British Columbia?? ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/66 "2012-09-17T13:50:41Z")
> [@Kenm](#): > > This is important. There are other strange creatures living in British Columbia other than hoop snakes and die-hard Socreds.[**The tree octopus**](http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/), for instance. –🙂 tree octopus…I suppose I wasn’t paying much attention…😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/67 "2012-09-17T13:56:42Z")
Perhaps a Tasmanian Tiger is what you want. The Bulletin magazine offered a reward of $1.25 million for the capture of a live one. At least we know they did exist- the last one died in 1936. Sadly, the Bulletin is now as extinct as the Tasmanian Tiger. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/68 "2012-09-17T14:06:13Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > like i said, it’s not me who’s gonna hunt the hoop snake but them. My part is to confirm whether the reward still exist to this day, and if so, then I just have to know how to claim it supposing they captured the snake. If there is no reward, there will be no hunt. I’m not going to participate in the hunt but them.That’s all. Whether it’s a guy with the dry ice and motorcycle or an alchemist or a snake oil peddler or anybody is not for me to know. Until I can confirm about the reward, then they will not hunt it yet. If there’s anyone here who knows how can I contact any associates of Raymond Ditmars or has a knowledge about the reward, then please message me. Why does it matter? If the hoop snake doesn’t exist, why does the supposed reward for finding it have to exist? It’s not like someone is going to catch this imaginary creature. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/69 "2012-09-17T14:06:21Z")
Perhaps the skeptics on the board can put their money where their mouth is. I am totally serious about this I will get the ball rolling (as it were) and pledge $100.00 towards a reward for the live capture of a Philippines Hoop Snake. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/70 "2012-09-17T14:06:45Z")
If you actually caught a hoopsnake, the discovery channel and every other sensationalist media source would trample an orphanage to throw money at you. Why worry about some antiquated reward when you can get loads more if you just capture one of the darn things? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/71 "2012-09-17T14:09:28Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Perhaps the skeptics on the board can put their money where their mouth is. I am totally serious about this > > I will get the ball rolling (as it were) and pledge $100.00 towards a reward for the live capture of a Philippines Hoop Snake. And how will you know if one has actually been captured? Videos are easily faked. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/72 "2012-09-17T14:29:09Z")
If you can actually find a hoop snake, $10,000 is pocket change compared to what you could make off that. You should be more concerned with finding the hoop snake than collecting a reward that is likely to be as fictional as the snake itself. And it should be much easier to get a photograph or video than to capture one alive or dead. Considering the insistence of your friends on the existence of these creatures, they’re taking a long time coming up with the proof. In the meantime, pay attention to this board. I’ll be offering a reward for finding a Jackelope before long. Note that proper spelling is part of claiming the reward. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/73 "2012-09-17T14:38:42Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > In the meantime, pay attention to this board. I’ll be offering a reward for finding a Jackelope before long. Note that proper spelling is part of claiming the reward. I’d put in a couple of hundred to see a half-jackel/half-calliope. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/74 "2012-09-17T15:53:25Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > Considering how many times he came back to our house, and calling his father and sister and and a few men on the phone (they live far away from our hometown) who will do the hunting, and in fact I’ve read their replies would make me think otherwise… So, have you seen one of these ubiquitous “hoop snakes” yourself, or are you relying on your “friend”'s word that they are all over the place? Sounds like a scam to get money out of you to me. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/75 "2012-09-17T16:07:20Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > —This truly does bring a tear to my eye. And a dozen facepalms. Have a nice day pal… Yeah. I’ll say the same to you…pal. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SpaceDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spacedog/32/9932_2.png) [@SpaceDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpaceDog)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/76 "2012-09-18T03:44:07Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > oh hey…from what province are you in the Phils? believe me, at first I never really believe hoop snakes exist here but when I told this to my friend he was surprised that anyone could have posted the reward for such a creature. The way he speaks is as if it is as common as a jungle pig. And my friend also would not waste his time coming back over and over to our house asking me if I already found a contact or on how to claim that reward. You know some people here will do anything for money. > > Well getting a video would be nice, but that’s troublesome. Anybody, I think would prefer a live one. > > I also tried Discovery channel but i don’t know how to contact them. I’m in Metro Manila although I’ve been out to a few of the provinces, never seen a snake of any description, although I’ve not exactly been looking. I do wonder if you’re not being conned, or led on, by your friend. I’d definitely go with the no money up front, catch it first (or at least see if live for yourself) then publicize and wait for the hordes. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/77 "2012-09-18T03:46:28Z")
> [@SpaceDog](#): > > I do wonder if you’re not being conned, or led on, by your friend. I’d definitely go with the no money up front, catch it first (or at least see if live for yourself) then publicize and wait for the hordes. It looks to me like maybe his friend is getting conned by the guys who claim they will catch the snake. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/78 "2012-09-18T05:25:40Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Perhaps the skeptics on the board can put their money where their mouth is. I am totally serious about this > > I will get the ball rolling (as it were) and pledge $100.00 towards a reward for the live capture of a Philippines Hoop Snake. I’m in for $100. Honestly. But why not pledge the whole amount? There’s no such thing so there’s no risk. OP, In this day of video phones and YouTube don’t you think someone would have captured one on video by now if they really existed? I applaud your faith in your “friend” but I have a hard time believing you are not just pulling our collective leg. Trying to find some archaic reward just doesn’t make sense. As noted upthread, catch one and the world will beat a path to your door. I’ll ask a favor of you. When you discover that your friend is wrong or is just teasing with you, will you be man enough to come here and post that you were wrong? ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/79 "2012-09-18T09:53:27Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > Perhaps a Tasmanian Tiger is what you want. The Bulletin magazine offered a reward of $1.25 million for the capture of a live one. At least we know they did exist- the last one died in 1936. > > Sadly, the Bulletin is now as extinct as the Tasmanian Tiger. –what I want is to confirm the reward for the hoop snake. No reward=no hunt. If there is a reward, then the next thing I want to know is how to claim it suppose they capture one. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/80 "2012-09-18T09:58:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Why does it matter? If the hoop snake doesn’t exist, why does the supposed reward for finding it have to exist? It’s not like someone is going to catch this imaginary creature. My thoughts exactly. That’s why I want to confirm it since Raymond Ditmars already passed away. That’s what I want to know. Somebody posted a link here and I’ve read that THERE IS STILL a reward for hoop snake, but I’m not that sure. If they already canceled the reward then of course there’s no reason to hunt it. So if you know something, just feel free to message me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858.md?page=5)