# Good day everyone. I have a question about hoop snakes. This is important. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [September 16, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858 "2012-09-16T07:35:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/81 "2012-09-18T10:06:39Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Perhaps the skeptics on the board can put their money where their mouth is. I am totally serious about this > > I will get the ball rolling (as it were) and pledge $100.00 towards a reward for the live capture of a Philippines Hoop Snake. –sadly the people whom we contact with already knew the reward. I don’t think they’ll settle for $100. And besides I think there will be at least 6 people here including me are involved. Now how about this one my friend?..Since it’s hard for me to contact that New York bank and I don’t know any how many legal hurdles we have to pass before we claim it supposing we capture that creature, why not settle this between the us? It seems to me that you like to wager because you posted $100. Do you happen to know any reptile collector or any human being who is willing to pay $10000 for a live hoop snake? A legal one, of course. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/82 "2012-09-18T10:11:24Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > If you actually caught a hoopsnake, the discovery channel and every other sensationalist media source would trample an orphanage to throw money at you. Why worry about some antiquated reward when you can get loads more if you just capture one of the darn things? –YEAH! THAT’S SO VERY TRUE my friend. But then you have to consider our situation here. I’m not a hunter, and we only contact people to hunt. Without reward, they won’t do anything. You know what, how I wish those people would have the same mind set as you are. But then they are way way older than me. And that was our deal. Until I can confirm the reward, then there will be no hunting yet. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/83 "2012-09-18T10:12:35Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And how will you know if one has actually been captured? Videos are easily faked. –the very reason why we should capture a LIVE one. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/84 "2012-09-18T10:25:27Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > If you can actually find a hoop snake, $10,000 is pocket change compared to what you could make off that. You should be more concerned with finding the hoop snake than collecting a reward that is likely to be as fictional as the snake itself. And it should be much easier to get a photograph or video than to capture one alive or dead. Considering the insistence of your friends on the existence of these creatures, they’re taking a long time coming up with the proof. > > In the meantime, pay attention to this board. I’ll be offering a reward for finding a Jackelope before long. Note that proper spelling is part of claiming the reward. Again what you’re saying is really true, I know that. But you also have to know that I AM NOT A HUNTER, nor I’m going to participate the hoop snake hunt. Since I read about the reward and showed it to my friend and he is now bugging me about how to claim it suppose they capture one, I decided to help him. And it’s basically what I’m doing right now. After this, then my part is finished. I just have to wait for them to capture it. How long will it be til they capture it nobody knows. And it’s not the only thing in my mind, tell you. I have also other things to do. Well then lots of luck finding someone who will hunt you a jackelope, cowboy. Include unicorns and man-eating trees in your shopping list too… ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/85 "2012-09-18T10:30:51Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > So, have you seen one of these ubiquitous “hoop snakes” yourself, or are you relying on your “friend”'s word that they are all over the place? > > Sounds like a scam to get money out of you to me. what are you talking about? of course there is no money involved yet, what are you thinking man?..and oh I haven’t seen a hoop snake yet. Till they capture one, or even not, still remains unknown. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/86 "2012-09-18T10:42:44Z")
> [@SpaceDog](#): > > I’m in Metro Manila although I’ve been out to a few of the provinces, never seen a snake of any description, although I’ve not exactly been looking. > > I do wonder if you’re not being conned, or led on, by your friend. I’d definitely go with the no money up front, catch it first (or at least see if live for yourself) then publicize and wait for the hordes. –well of course since you live in Metro Manila area and perhaps the province you’ve been are maybe in some parts of Luzon I bet you’ll never find, or perhaps very few, information on hoop snake. Anyway just don’t worry about it. –again I will tell you and I’ll keep telling it everytime I read comments like this, that I AM NOT A HUNTER. If only I am, and a skillful one too, then of course I’ll go for a catch it first then publicize it scheme. With what I’m doing right now, I’ve got nothing to lose! All I need to do is to look for a contact, and confirm the reward, and if there is, then find out the steps on how to claim it. That’s all. Which makes me think why you wonder about me being conned. I’m just here sitting in our house doing nothing difficult, just surfing the net or watching movies, why not I’ll give this hoop snake thing a try? If I’m busy with other things I don’t suppose I’ll be giving time for this. It so happened that I’m not busy. So I have plenty of time in my hands. ---
**Author:** ![Snerky\_Snerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Snerky\_Snerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snerky_Snerk)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/87 "2012-09-18T10:54:05Z")
You seem determined. Click this link [here.](http://www.greenhallstrust-wi.org/scholarship.htm) At the bottom of that page are 3 email addresses. Try those. The Greenhall Trust has absolutely nothing to do with your reward, however Arthur Greenhall worked with Ditmars. Maybe Arthur’s family can access records, etc that could give you a lead. Really that’s about it. It would be up to you to convince them to bother assisting you. Good luck. And don’t mention the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/88 "2012-09-18T10:56:55Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > It looks to me like maybe his friend is getting conned by the guys who claim they will catch the snake. –Sherlock, obviously you haven’t been reading my very first post I presume. This whole hoop snake hunt thing was started by me and my friend, or should I say it started by me. It goes like this: 1. I saw the information in the wikipedia about the reward for anyone who can provide the evidence for the hoop snake, 2. Then I showed this information to him 3. So he asked me if the reward is legit and on how to claim it supposing the snake is captured. 4. Without me knowing, he called his father and sister who also called the people they knew who had a knowledge on how to capture the hoop snake. 5. Came back many times on our house asking me how is it going on (did i confirm it already and how to claim it. 6. Showed me his father’s and sister’s message that hoop snakes really exist and asked me about the reward thing. 7. And that’s what I’m doing right now, I have to confirm the reward plus I also have to look for the contact. also my friend gave me other option, I believe I posted it a while ago albeit between me and somebody. If in case I cannot contact any associates of Raymond Ditmars (the one who posted the reward) then I just have to look for other person/s who might be interested in giving the reward for hoop snake. Both are difficult tasks and I can feel it since yesterday…sigh:😉 ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/89 "2012-09-18T10:59:45Z")
> [@Snerky\_Snerk](#): > > You seem determined. > > Click this link [here.](http://www.greenhallstrust-wi.org/scholarship.htm) > > At the bottom of that page are 3 email addresses. > > Try those. The Greenhall Trust has absolutely nothing to do with your reward, however Arthur Greenhall worked with Ditmars. Maybe Arthur’s family can access records, etc that could give you a lead. > > Really that’s about it. It would be up to you to convince them to bother assisting you. > > Good luck. > > And don’t mention the SDMB. –ok man I tried this before but I cannot send my message to those email addresses below. Why do you think is that? Can you help me? yeah they were associates of Raymond Ditmars especially Paul Greenhall but I cannot send my message to them. I even looked for their facebook accounts but to no avail. If you know how to please tell me how…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/90 "2012-09-18T11:02:35Z")
> [@Snerky\_Snerk](#): > > You seem determined. > > Click this link [here.](http://www.greenhallstrust-wi.org/scholarship.htm) > > At the bottom of that page are 3 email addresses. > > Try those. The Greenhall Trust has absolutely nothing to do with your reward, however Arthur Greenhall worked with Ditmars. Maybe Arthur’s family can access records, etc that could give you a lead. > > Really that’s about it. It would be up to you to convince them to bother assisting you. > > Good luck. > > And don’t mention the SDMB. and also if I click their emails, nothing happens. why is that? yeah sure, I won’t mention SDMB I promise. ---
**Author:** ![Snerky\_Snerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Snerky\_Snerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snerky_Snerk)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/91 "2012-09-18T11:24:38Z")
Fuck. No. Not now. Do you have a trouser snake? Go play with him for awhile. I’m never goin to have kids. No way. Nu-uh. Anyone else want to find the Greenhalls? Anyone? I think they’re real. Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Snerky\_Snerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Snerky\_Snerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snerky_Snerk)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/92 "2012-09-18T11:40:48Z")
And what do you mean nothing happens when you click on the email addresses? Are you on a mobile phone? an ipad? desktop or laptop? Does it usually launch an email client when you click an email addy? Do you use web based email on a mobile? ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/93 "2012-09-18T11:44:01Z")
> [@Snerky\_Snerk](#): > > Fuck. > > No. Not now. > > Do you have a trouser snake? Go play with him for awhile. > > I’m never goin to have kids. No way. Nu-uh. > > Anyone else want to find the Greenhalls? > > Anyone? > > I think they’re real. Maybe. –huh? wth… ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/94 "2012-09-18T11:48:45Z")
> [@Snerky\_Snerk](#): > > And what do you mean nothing happens when you click on the email addresses? > > Are you on a mobile phone? an ipad? desktop or laptop? > > Does it usually launch an email client when you click an email addy? > > Do you use web based email on a mobile? –nothing happens as in nothing, no pop ups, no opened tabs no nothing…i’m on a laptop anyway…on some email ads, it launches an email client but here in the link you posted, it doesn’t. I don’t use a web based email on mobile. Really I’ve been trying on this since yesterday, I think it was you who gave me this link before, right? I think I’m getting a little closer on finding my contact…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snerky\_Snerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Snerky\_Snerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snerky_Snerk)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/95 "2012-09-18T12:13:07Z")
Ok. Went to verify email. The aol address shows as active. The other brother’s account is not verifying as active. I didn’t check the hotmail account. If you still need help, you could start a thread in GQ or IMHO requesting help with your email. I think it may be getting too far off topic for this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Snerky\_Snerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Snerky\_Snerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snerky_Snerk)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/96 "2012-09-18T12:35:44Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > –nothing happens as in nothing, no pop ups, no opened tabs no nothing…i’m on a laptop anyway…on some email ads, it launches an email client but here in the link you posted, it doesn’t. I don’t use a web based email on mobile. Really I’ve been trying on this since yesterday, I think it was you who gave me this link before, right? I think I’m getting a little closer on finding my contact…🙂 Go over to GQ. Start a thread. List what OS and browser you are using. Explain what you are trying to do. Simple. I’m assuming you already tried copying the address, opening your email, and pasting directly into the address field? ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/97 "2012-09-18T13:20:05Z")
> [@Snerky\_Snerk](#): > > Go over to GQ. Start a thread. List what OS and browser you are using. > Explain what you are trying to do. > Simple. > > I’m assuming you already tried copying the address, opening your email, and pasting directly into the address field? –yeah that’s what I did and nothing happened. Okay then I’ll work hard on this and try what you said. Thank you very much!..🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/98 "2012-09-18T13:28:16Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > Again what you’re saying is really true, I know that. But you also have to know that I AM NOT A HUNTER, nor I’m going to participate the hoop snake hunt. Since I read about the reward and showed it to my friend and he is now bugging me about how to claim it suppose they capture one, I decided to help him. And it’s basically what I’m doing right now. After this, then my part is finished. I just have to wait for them to capture it. How long will it be til they capture it nobody knows. And it’s not the only thing in my mind, tell you. I have also other things to do. I’ll guarantee you $10,000 if you send me an actual hoop snake. It has to be a snake that grabs the tip of its tail in its teeth, forms a hoop shape, and rolls down a hill. You got that, you got 10 grand. Remember, I offered the full $10,000 first, not some measly $100 while waiting for other investors, full amount on the barrel head. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/99 "2012-09-18T13:42:01Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I’ll guarantee you $10,000 if you send me an actual hoop snake. It has to be a snake that grabs the tip of its tail in its teeth, forms a hoop shape, and rolls down a hill. You got that, you got 10 grand. Remember, I offered the full $10,000 first, not some measly $100 while waiting for other investors, full amount on the barrel head. are you really serious? once you say yes, you can never go back to your word… ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/100 "2012-09-18T13:51:27Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > are you really serious? once you say yes, you can never go back to your word… Yes, I am serious. I have the money, but I have no concern about paying it out. Hoop snakes do not exist. No one who actually knows where a hoop snake is would wait for word on monetary compensation to go get one. To save time I may have to wrap this together in an omnibus reward for any of a hoop snake, jackelope, bigfoot, or a few other mythical creatures. So don’t sit around waiting, go get the snake. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858.md?page=6)