# Good day everyone. I have a question about hoop snakes. This is important. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [September 16, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858 "2012-09-16T07:35:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/121 "2012-09-18T15:20:34Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > –and I have posted over and over gain that I’m not the one who’s gonna hunt the hoop snake but those people whom my friend already contacted with. Make an effort to understand dude!..If those people who will going to hunt the hoop snake would have the same mind set as you are, then there would be no problem and I would not post something like that here. But they are not like that! They won’t do anything unless they heard from me that I already confirmed it. You understand it, do you? you do right?? I suppose you do. It is easy for you to say that “The snake would be worth millions on the open market blah blah” but the question is who will hunt??? come on guys, it seems like I’ve been answering this kind of question many times already and it is very tiring. Very tiring indeed. My suggestion is for you to tell your “friend” that he is an idiot because hoop snakes do not exist, so it doesn’t fucking matter who is rewarding what. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/122 "2012-09-18T15:20:50Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > If I were in your situation, I’d already have a whole pen of hoop snakes for sale. that’s cool :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/123 "2012-09-18T15:22:59Z")
The way you claim it is to capture a hoop snake and then tell anyone with any connections at all to the media. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/124 "2012-09-18T15:23:25Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Very tiring indeed. My suggestion is for you to tell your “friend” that he is an idiot because hoop snakes do not exist, so it doesn’t fucking matter who is rewarding what. that’s trippy ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/125 "2012-09-18T15:25:27Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > that’s trippy It’s the truth. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/126 "2012-09-18T15:25:50Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > The way you claim it is to capture a hoop snake and then tell anyone with any connections at all to the media. I suppose I didn’t make myself clear or that you don’t understand it the way I can. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/127 "2012-09-18T15:31:12Z")
Yeah, that must be it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/128 "2012-09-18T15:31:20Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > I suppose I didn’t make myself clear or that you don’t understand it the way I can. I understand completely. Your friend won’t go hoop snake hunting unless a $10,000 offer from back in the 50’s is confirmed, even though many times that amount would certainly be offered for one on the open market. Your “friend” is an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/129 "2012-09-18T15:35:12Z")
Is a hotdog messenger someone who works for a messenger surface and rides his bicycle fast, performing various stunts, or is he someone who transports pork products from the manufacturer to the store/consumer? Is a sausage-of-the-month club somehow involved? ETA: This is important. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/130 "2012-09-18T15:36:33Z")
This is all I have to say and I have to repeat over and over again. But it’s because I’m asking for the information, so I have to do it. Raymond Ditmars posted a $10000 reward for anyone who can provide an evidence for a hoop snake. But he already passed away more than half a century ago. Now my question is, What happened to the reward? Does it still exist? If there is no reward, then THERE WILL BE NO HUNT. But if the reward still exists then I want to know how to claim it supposing the snake will be captured. If you have any information with regards to that, then please let me know…i guess it’s not really complicated right. If you say they canceled the reward, then please post the link for that. I want to confirm that as well. That will be all. I guess I made myself clear. Thank you… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/131 "2012-09-18T15:44:24Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > If there is no reward, then THERE WILL BE NO HUNT. Why? What rational reason is there not to hunt for something that could bring millions on the open market if you…I mean your “friend” truly believes it exists? Why is the hunt off unless that particular offer, and only _that_ particular offer, is valid? _WHY?_ ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/132 "2012-09-18T15:44:50Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I understand completely. > Your friend won’t go hoop snake hunting unless a $10,000 offer from back in the 50’s is confirmed, even though many times that amount would certainly be offered for one on the open market. > Your “friend” is an idiot. well that’s what he wants, and probably he is too tired to offer it in the open market, or maybe he has no idea how to do that maybe because he’s lazy. I mean, who knows what anybody is thinking. Whatever the reasons maybe, I helped him because I can. After all, the deal here is closed. I’ll go confirm, and they hunt. End of the story. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/133 "2012-09-18T15:46:48Z")
If you capture a hoop snake, the ghost of Raymond will appear to you on the first Blue Moon after a successful capture. He’ll ask you three questions to determine your fidelity of spirit. Should you pass this test, he will reveal to you the Lore of the Shadow and Spider which contains directions to the Cave Of Dreadful Wights. Once you arrive at the inner sanctum you will find a map that has the location for the reward marked on it. Don’t forget your sword of +2 Gullibility! ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/134 "2012-09-18T15:51:21Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Why? What rational reason is there not to hunt for something that could bring millions on the open market if you…I mean your “friend” truly believes it exists? Why is the hunt off unless that particular offer, and only _that_ particular offer, is valid? > _WHY?_ Ok this time I’m going to do my own. And I’ll be expecting a nice answer from you. Supposing my friend captured a hoop snake, how can we sell it in the open market? Do you have any idea? I don’t have one…maybe you can convince me to make him change his mind… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/135 "2012-09-18T15:51:55Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > well that’s what he wants, and probably he is too tired to offer it in the open market, or maybe he has no idea how to do that maybe because he’s lazy. I mean, who knows what anybody is thinking. Whatever the reasons maybe, I helped him because I can. After all, the deal here is closed. I’ll go confirm, and they hunt. End of the story. The real story is that you…I mean “your friend”, knows that there is no such thing as a hoop snake, and are using this ancient offer from the '50’s as a dodge to avoid going on your snake hunt. “Darn it all-If _only_ that offer had been confirmed, I could show you a hoop snake today.” You are putting an unreasonable condition on the search for that specific reason. ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/136 "2012-09-18T15:52:27Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > If you capture a hoop snake, the ghost of Raymond will appear to you on the first Blue Moon after a successful capture. He’ll ask you three questions to determine your fidelity of spirit. Should you pass this test, he will reveal to you the Lore of the Shadow and Spider which contains directions to the Cave Of Dreadful Wights. Once you arrive at the inner sanctum you will find a map that has the location for the reward marked on it. Don’t forget your sword of +2 Gullibility! very poetic. I don’t play games by the way…clap clap clap ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/137 "2012-09-18T15:54:17Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > Ok this time I’m going to do my own. And I’ll be expecting a nice answer from you. Supposing my friend captured a hoop snake, how can we sell it in the open market? Do you have any idea? I don’t have one…maybe you can convince me to make him change his mind… eBay. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/138 "2012-09-18T15:54:41Z")
> [@hotdog\_messenger](#): > > Supposing my friend captured a hoop snake, how can we sell it in the open market? [Craigslist.](http://manila.en.craigslist.com.ph/) ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/139 "2012-09-18T15:54:53Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The real story is that you…I mean “your friend”, knows that there is no such thing as a hoop snake, and are using this ancient offer from the '50’s as a dodge to avoid going on your snake hunt. “Darn it all-If _only_ that offer had been confirmed, I could show you a hoop snake today.” You are putting an unreasonable condition on the search for that specific reason. Ok I guess I’ll have to ask you the same question I asked of InnerStink… Supposing we capture a hoop snake, how can we sell it in the open market? do you have any idea? ---
**Author:** ![hotdog\_messenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@hotdog\_messenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotdog_messenger)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858/140 "2012-09-18T15:56:56Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > [Craigslist.](http://manila.en.craigslist.com.ph/) other suggestions perhaps? please be more specific…not ebay, amazon, or anything like that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-day-everyone-i-have-a-question-about-hoop-snakes-this-is-important/634858.md?page=8)