# Good Ideas for Star Trek Series That Don't Suck

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**Created:** [March 24, 2003, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770 "2003-03-24T14:01:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/21 "2003-03-25T02:32:35Z")

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**The Adventures of Harry Mudd and Cyrano Jones**

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**Author:** ![MemoryLeak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6f9a4e/32.png) [@MemoryLeak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MemoryLeak)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/22 "2003-03-25T03:41:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> \*\*Star Fleet Academy 90210
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> 7 handsome young people (mail and female)(alien female MUST have large you-know-whats) go through the rigors and drama of find love and happiness while enduring the rigors of the Academy.
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> I’m thinking Casper van Dien for the male lead.
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> Who’s with me here? \*\*

Can there be lesbians?

Please?

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/23 "2003-03-25T04:57:29Z")

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Star Trek: Homefront

A series which has NOTHING TO DO WITH STARFLEET!

We have the story centered around a civilian family on Earth during the Dominion war…sort of a future Wonder Years.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/24 "2003-03-25T05:50:42Z")

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There _isn’t_ going to be a Startrek: Iceland, right? I woke up a couple of days ago fully convinced that I’d read in a tvguide article that that was the next one they were thinking of doing. I almost looked it up on the net before I woke up enough to realize that placing the series in Iceland makes no sense whatsoever. Unless, of course, it’s not the Iceland on Earth, but a rip of that place in Titian A.E. 😃

I’d maybe watch Star Trek: The Next Next Generation.  
Like StarTrek: 90210 it’d feature a young cast (I’m thinking Jason Behr, Michelle Williams, Sprague Grayden- which is a rather unfortunate name for a girl IMO- , Ryan Reynolds, Adrian Grenier, Jessie Bradford, a couple of other girls, probably, to attract male viewers) just out of the academy and on a ship for the first time who, however, do not focus primarily on their sex lives but are in many ways like the orginal cast of TNG. Betty White and David Duchovny would be the advisors back home they’d clash with; Chris Pratt could play Q’s son, and torture them; they’d have to put up with entertaining White’s annoying grandchildren (Emily VanCamp, Mika Boorem, Ryan Cooley, Mike Weinberg) etc. It could be a digified sort of show compared to most featuring young people. But feature a lot of shirtless guys, training or whatever.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/25 "2003-03-25T06:09:48Z")

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I have an idea: Some of the Slave Girls of Orion fight for their freedom and commandeer a ship. The series is about their adventures in space while orion ships pursue them. Warning: Could be highly erotic.

I’d Call it Star Trek: Dryads.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/26 "2003-03-25T06:50:35Z")

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\*\*ROMULANS!!! \*\*

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> BTW–slight hijack, here, sorry–has anybody read the Section 31 books, and if you have, what did you think? Are they worth the money or not? No spoilers on the books, please.

DS9’s book is good but you need to read the Avatar books first. The series relaunched with those and I read the Section 31 book first. Needless to say, I was _lost_.

Avoid the TNG book like the plague. I don’t remember if the TOS or Voyager books were any good.

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/27 "2003-03-25T11:53:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Aesiron \*  
> \*\*ROMULANS!!! \*\*

Exactly. I’ve always thought that a show centered around the crew of a Romulan starship would be very interested. A series that isn’t told from the Federation point of view.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/28 "2003-03-25T14:43:18Z")

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Section 31 could, i think, work quite well if it were done properly. I’ve always envisioned them as being very much like Special Circumstances from the Iain M Banks Culture novels.

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/29 "2003-03-25T16:18:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MrVisible \*  
> \*\*…attempts to retrofit it to be that are doomed to get more and more awkward and bizarre. At this point, making a quality series would involve ditching canon to one degree or another… \*\*

Setting the show in the mirror universe would free up the limitations of canon.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/30 "2003-03-25T16:36:27Z")

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A lot of guys are dead in the mirror universe. Spock, Odo and Sisko come to mind.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/31 "2003-03-25T16:38:22Z")

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OTOH, Janeway would look good with a beard…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/32 "2003-03-25T21:34:16Z")

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> I’ve had this idea for a while about a series where a guy or small group get recruited/forced to be undercover agents in a war between two super-being groups. The groups don’t want to be actively at war, so they use lesser races as pawns, and get a group of federation people to do their dirty work. They are supplied with advanced technology, and some psionic, telekenetic type powers. And when they are not summoned to a mission, they are free to act as they want.

And while you’re at it, throw in a five-mile long space station, an older-and-wiser alien race which just stopped waging war on humans a few years ago, and a bunch of ambassadors :D.

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**Author:** ![raisinbread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@raisinbread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raisinbread)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/33 "2003-03-26T01:06:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> **7 handsome young people (mail and female)(alien female MUST have large you-know-whats)**

Why must every alien be some manner of mammal and sexually compatible to humans? Plus any self-respecting extraterrestrial wouldn’t stoop so low as to give birth to a human hybrid mud baby unless they’re one of those kinky gray zeta reticulans who will do anything with a closed circulatory system and an anus.

My only suggestion for a good Trek series is to remove Brannon and Braga from writing and production duties and get someone else. Perhaps hire real science fiction writers to do Star Trek seriously rather than “Well, they’re just analogies for oppressed minorities with funky foreheads.”

Do the damned story with real people, it’s not the sixties anymore. TV doesn’t have to hide heavy handed morality plays behind the foam rubber prosthesis of science fiction.

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/34 "2003-03-26T02:02:57Z")

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**Star Trek: Canon Patrol**

SCENE: THE BRIDGE OF THE USS CECIL ADAMS:

SCIENCE OFFICER NOCLUEBOY: Fascinating, Captain… Temporal sensors indicate that the Borg have materialized in the 22nd Century.

CAPTAIN AESIRON: Arm photon torpedoes and fire.

COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER TERRIFEL: Captain, we’re being hailed by Berman and Braga.

CAPTAIN AESIRON: Arm photon torpedoes and fire.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/35 "2003-03-26T04:20:17Z")

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Ha! **NCB** is my inferior! All is right with the world. 😃

Keep up the good work, **Terrifiel** , and I’ll be sure to commend you to Admirals **Kn\*ckers** and **Vivalostwages**.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/36 "2003-03-26T04:22:30Z")

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Ahem…

Like Spock to Kirk, I am in all ways your superior.

I _choose_ not to command.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/37 "2003-03-26T04:24:27Z")

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_Why, you green blooded son of a…!_

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/38 "2003-03-26T04:32:38Z")

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Emotional outbursts are not logical.

Captain.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/39 "2003-03-26T04:40:00Z")

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But e… motion is… what makes us what… we are, **NC** … **B**! You are… half hu… man! Surely you can… under… stand our con… dition!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-ideas-for-star-trek-series-that-dont-suck/163770/40 "2003-03-26T05:24:54Z")

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dayamn!

good Shatner-esque delivery

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Has there ever been a XXX spoof of Trek?

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_Life Styles Of The Big And Ruthless_

A show of all the giant and or villian species in Trek.  
_Enterprise Cribs_

All the crew quarters are highlighted. And there off watch entertainment/interests.  
_T’Pol - Warrior Princess_

Lesbian scenes galore (lot’s of Panda) as she beats up people.

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