# Good, modern, "clean" rock/top 40 albums

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 1, 2008, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-modern-clean-rock-top-40-albums/447570 "2008-05-01T05:33:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-modern-clean-rock-top-40-albums/447570/41 "2008-05-04T05:03:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Made in Macau]

I know I’m a twat who is contributing nothing to this thread…  
but Duffy is Welsh. I know that Welsh/Scottish/English/NIrish = british, but when KT Tunstall is always referred to as Scottish…and Kate Nash/Winehouse etc is ‘English’ it gets my goat.  
MiM  
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The difference is, Americans can recognize a Scottish or Irish accent, but usually not a Welsh one.

And I’ve never heard Northern Ireland referred to as “British,” Britain being a different island and all.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-modern-clean-rock-top-40-albums/447570/42 "2008-05-04T14:10:20Z")

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[QUOTE=RoOsh]  
I actually second this. As a kid under the similar conditions back in the Day- Weird Al was a breath of Fresh air and totally cool.  
Come on, who doesn’t love the bloodthirsty violence of “The Night Santa Went Crazy”.  
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I mostly agree, except the song about Jerry Springer from Running with Scissors is conspicious by its relative raunchiness. That it still could be played unedited on radio stations speaks to the relative cleanliness of the rest of his work.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-modern-clean-rock-top-40-albums/447570/43 "2008-05-04T14:23:51Z")

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[QUOTE=cbawlmer]  
I’m especially interested in music that might appeal to my sister. The only new music she’s familiar with is Hannah Montana, and at 14 she’s really too old for that. She shows no interest in boys, and I don’t want to push a ton of love songs on her, but I’d like to get her some good music by female artists. It doesn’t matter if it’s new or old. (I know many of you are going to think, “better get out the Indigo Girls and k.d. lang,” but I’m keeping it neutral for now.)  
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Is this a joke? Hannah Montana is huge with young teens of both sexes. Of course, I don’t think the boys are interested in her music so much. Oh, and the lesbian jokes are lame. I knew plenty of people with no outward interest in the opposite sex in their young teens who didn’t catch “teh ghey”.

[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
**Rilo Kiley** is mostly fronted by a female vocalist. They are very good most of the time.

I suggest \*\*Neutral Milk Hotel \*\* to everyone and their brother. In The Aeroplane Over the Sea is the album to get. It isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but if you can get into the sound of his voice, it is fantastic.  
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Neither of these are anywhere near “clean”. Especially Rilo Kiley’s most recent CD “Under the Blacklight”. It was great, but I felt dirty after listening to it.

Might I suggest **Guster** though? Their two most recent CDs (“Keep it Together” and “Ganging Up on the Sun”) are both pretty clean and are full of great music. “Lost and Gone Forever” is my favorite, but there are a few songs with “mature themes” and some swear words.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-modern-clean-rock-top-40-albums/447570/44 "2008-05-04T14:38:15Z")

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[QUOTE=cbawlmer]  
I’m especially interested in music that might appeal to my sister. The only new music she’s familiar with is Hannah Montana, and at 14 she’s really too old for that. She shows no interest in boys, and I don’t want to push a ton of love songs on her, but I’d like to get her some good music by female artists. It doesn’t matter if it’s new or old. (I know many of you are going to think, “better get out the Indigo Girls and k.d. lang,” but I’m keeping it neutral for now.)  
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Most of the music I listen to is female fronted and I second **PJ Harvey** , as well as suggesting albums by **Tegan and Sara** , **Regina Spektor** , **Imogen Heap** , and **Amanda Ghost**.  
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Tegan and Sara\*\* are an indie-rock band out of Canada comprised of identical (lesbian) twins that are one of my favorite acts. They have a noticeable folksy flavor to their music in my opinion but are still undeniably rock. \*\*Regina \*\*and **Imogen Heap** might be a little too out there for her, but might also be the perfect kind of music, as well. They’re both pretty brash and pretty experimental. **Amanda Ghost** , I just love. She’s a British singer-songwriter with a raspy voice that can still sing beautifully on ballads.

If you want something a little lighter, there’s also **Vienna Teng** , **Charlotte Martin** , **Eisley** , and **Butterfly Boucher**. The first two are vaguely Sarah McLachlan-ish, \*\*Eisley \*\*is indie pop, and **Butterfly Boucher** is a pop/rock artist from Australia.

And, finally, if some language is no problem, my favorite artist is **Sarah Fimm** , a downtempo trip-hop artist out of New York. She’s just simply wonderful and I worship the ground she glides over.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-modern-clean-rock-top-40-albums/447570/45 "2008-05-04T15:05:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Krokodil]

And I’ve never heard Northern Ireland referred to as “British,” Britain being a different island and all.  
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Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but while Northern Ireland may not be part of Great Britain, I believe that a lot of people from Northern Island (mostly the Protestants), consider themselves “British.”

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-modern-clean-rock-top-40-albums/447570/46 "2008-05-04T16:01:42Z")

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**Soundgarden  
White Stripes  
Massive Attack  
Foo Fighters  
Monster Magnet  
Beck  
Beastie Boys**

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**Author:** ![Mirror\_Image\_egamI\_rorriM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mirror\_Image\_egamI\_rorriM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mirror_Image_egamI_rorriM)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-modern-clean-rock-top-40-albums/447570/47 "2008-05-04T16:23:39Z")

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“Field Manual” by Chris Walla is also good poppy rock, nice and clean.

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-modern-clean-rock-top-40-albums/447570/48 "2008-05-05T18:57:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey]  
Is this a joke? Hannah Montana is huge with young teens of both sexes. Of course, I don’t think the boys are interested in her music so much. Oh, and the lesbian jokes are lame. I knew plenty of people with no outward interest in the opposite sex in their young teens who didn’t catch “teh ghey”.  
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I don’t know any teenaged boys other than my brother, who doesn’t care about Hannah Montana. Maybe some boys do like her. It hadn’t occurred to me that boys might think she’s hot, though maybe it should have. I couldn’t pick her out of a lineup myself.

The lesbian reference wasn’t really a joke. She wouldn’t be the first non-straight person in the family, but I really have no idea what her true feelings are. More than likely she’s been raised to believe that sex is gross and sinful, especially for women, so she’s chucking the idea altogether for the moment. I just want to give her something fun and interesting to listen to that isn’t aimed at 10-year-olds. I know music expanded my horizons a lot when I was a teen, but I had more access than my siblings do.

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