Good Movie Fight Scenes - where?

Most of the fight scenes in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon were pretty well done. Even if you disagree, at least they zoomed the camera out a little bit to show the two combatants going at it.

I know (and hate!) exactly what the OP is talking about. The quick cuts ruined all the fight scenes in Star Wars Episode 3, IMHO.

OK, random question, what’s wrong with “Unleashed” as a title for the movie? And how is it a PC title?

Anyhow, back to the OT, I liked the beatdown scene between Sonny Corleone and his brother in law in The Godfather. “Touch my sister again… and I’ll kill you!”

Also, the final duel between Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi, starting immediately after Vader suggests that Leia might be convinced to turn to the Dark Side. The music in that scene is just amazing, with Luke swinging madly at Vader, who realizes only too late that he’s bitten off far more than he could chew.

I signed up just so I could give yet another nod to the hallway fight scene in OldBoy. That is one satisfying brawl.

Frank Sinatra and Henry Silva entertainingly redecorate Laurence Harvey’s apartment in The Manchurian Candidate. Apparently Sinatra permanently fucked up his hand karate-chopping a coffee table.

The Hunted; very realistic knife fight. Most of my other favorites have already been mentioned.

To answer your second question first: it’s un-PC to acknowlege that Danny is being mistreated and regarded for the first part of the movie as a subhuman being. Avoiding the racial unpleasantness is key given who Jet Li’s character’s “master” is – hence the politically correct change, hence the Hollywood dumping of the far more brutal and descriptive “Danny the Dog” – the name it’s known by everywhere else in the world – for that other name. Blecch.

Even the dog collar is minimized in the ad copy accompanying the movie’s name change in the states.

Secondly that other name you alluded to is dull and uninformative in a way “Danny the Dog” isn’t. When you have a chance to grab the audience’s attention with a catchy character’s name or some obscure-verb form, you NEVER choose a transitive verb over a character’s cool-sounding alliterative (or assonance). “Buckaroo Bonzai” was not called INVADED. “King Kong” was not called DETHRONED. “Kill Bill” was not called BRIDLED. The other movie’s title is meaningless unless you’ve seen it already and therefore understand the double meaning. With Danny the Dog you know it’s about some dude you don’t want to mess with. What’s surprising is why and how he got his name. When you walk into a movie named “Danny the Dog” and find out in the first 5 minutes why he’s called that, it hits you in a way that Unleashed doesn’t quite match.

Have to agree about the sword fight in Rob Roy. Brutally realistic—I felt exhausted afterward.
For a fist fight, again I have to agree that John Cusack and Benny the Jet Urquidez in Grosse Point Blank was excellent, although the gunfights in that movie was incredibly silly and unrealistic.
The gunfight at the end of Open Range was awesome. Slow movie, but an incredibly payoff. Also the post-bank robbery gunfight in Heat.

Eh, “Unleashed” is a cool name, and at least with the benefit of seeing the movie trailer (which does focus somewhat centrally on the collar and the mistreatment of Danny), the title fits the movie very well. “Danny the Dog”, at least to me, sounds like the kind of goofy name you give to a kid’s movie.

So… do you have a cite for the movie’s name being changed for PC reasons, rather than just marketing reasons? Cause, like I said, the newer title sounds cooler, at least to me. Then again, I am willing to warrant that it could be because that’s the title I became familiar to the movie by, kinda like how when I think of Micheal Corleone, I think of the guy from the Godfather video game, rather than young Al Pacino, who to me looks like Jake Gyllenhaal), mostly because I’m a weirdo and only saw The Godfather like a month ago after I played the game.

So, trying to think of more fight scenes, I think I remember a good one in “Our Man Flint”, between Agent Flint and Agent 0007 (yes, with 3 0’s), having themselves a good ol’ barroom brawl while passing secret information on the bad guys from one intel organization to another.

Seconded. That is the only time I have ever seen a realistic knife-fight in a movie.

Pick a Bruce Lee movie, any Bruce Lee movie.
My personal favourite is Jing wu men, also known as Fist of Fury and The Chinese Connection.

No offense, but it cracked me up to see this post right underneath the one praising “The Hunted” – in a thread that had already referenced “The Undefeated” and “Undisputed”. :wink:

No cite, but what possible marketing reason would they have to change the movie’s title from its original Hong Kong-translation character-descriptive to a completely forgettable (if “cooler”) generic action name unless they were worried “Danny the Dog” would offend people in the US and UK, the only two countries I see it marketed this way? The reaction is clearly marketing-driven for political correctness because Danny is an Asian male who’s treated like a dog by a racist gangster.

Yeah, but at least those words are clearly associated with boxing. Conflict is promised. Unleashed? Eh.

I supposed they could have done worse, but I prefer Danny the Dog. That’s the name I first saw the movie by, it’s catchier. It may sound like a kiddie flick, but frankly so do Tommy, Bugsy, Parents Monster’s Ball and Fun With Dick and Jane

I also came in to mention this one. Lots of training immediately boiling down to two sweaty guys quietly trying to get at each other’s neck or eyes.

“See you later Ken, thank you for the pen.”

Eh, I think you’re presuming that a lot more thought goes into some decisions than may actually happen. But to answer your question, because the alternate title is percieved by the marketing people as “Cooler”. Was “Leon” renamed “The Professional” because they feared that people would be offended by the European guy getting a stereotypically European name?

Hell, there aren’t many things that the word “Unleashed” implies other than impending violence and bad things, since at least to me, I associate the word with vicious attack/fighting dogs kept in check only by their leashes and handlers.

I mean, surely you’ve heard the expression “Unleash the hounds!” but have you ever heard “Unleash the bunnies!” or “Unleash the teddy bears!”? :smiley:

Because “Danny The Dog” tells you nothing about the film, it sounds like a kiddie film (and I bet more than one parent took their kids to Fun With Dick & Jane because they thought it was a kids film!), and Unleashed is, IMO, a much cooler name for a Martial Art film, given the subject, than “Danny The Dog”.

It was marketed as Unleashed here in Australia, too, BTW.

Raguleader and Martini Enfield. Australia, US, UK and Canada. Four white majority countries with sizeable Asian populations. But as near as I can tell, in all other Asian countries where it opened – and Brazil, the Caribbean, Egypt, South Africa, Israel, and several other European markets, it remained Danny The Dog.

Look, if the ONLY thing changed was the name, I maaaaaybe could see your points that Unleashed “sounds cooler” and that was the only concern. But several other things happened: the taglines of the movie were changed repeatedly here in the states, typically toned down from the distressing copy I see in places like France (I believe that says, Raised like a dog. Dressed to kill.) to something like “Serve No Master” or worse, the light and fluffy “Chained By Violence, Freed By Music”; Morgan Freeman’s images (and in some cases Bob Hopkins’) have been slowly disappearing from all the ad copy and DVD cases over the last few months with any hints of racial overtones glossed over; this movie has been marketed as just another martial arts action movie, which it’s not. The dog collar Jet Li wears is entirely absent now from the DVD jacket art. IIRC, the movie opened with little promotion at the beginning of last year’s summer schedule in a pathetic opening of fewer than 60 screens in America. That last particularly smells like “testing the waters” to me.

Look, I realize I can get a bit race-focused, but c’mon. Y’all don’t see all this as blatant manipulation and PC sanitizing to avoid offense? C’mon!

Nope. Sounds like they just changed it from a goofy title to a cool title. :slight_smile:

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I know precisely what the OP is talking about. Anybody seen Resident Evil 2?

Lordy, everything is cut up so much you can’t even tell what’s going on during the climactic end sequence. It’s annoying as hell.
Still in the sci-fi genre, though, I love the fights between Mal and the Agent in Serenity. Still a bit fast, but Whedon keep the shots focused on where the movement is. Ditto with River’s first freak-out.

:smack: When will I learn?