# Good News for Big Bad Voodoo Lou, Me, and Other BtVS Converts.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 23, 2005, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211 "2005-08-23T01:41:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/1 "2005-08-23T01:41:30Z")
…that are either new to the series or just haven’t gotten around to buying the DVDs yet: Amazon has a 40 Disc [_Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ Collector’s Set](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000AQ68RI/ref=wl_it_dp/103-3121582-0057402?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=IN3PJ0F9VN26T&v=glance&colid=9K844SFD60G1) listed on their site that is due out on November 15th and is retailing for $139.99 – just twenty dollars a season – so not only do you get a brand new shiny box of unopened goodness for a third of its original price, you also get an extra disc of extras for having to suffer without it until now. I’ve already told my dad that if he doesn’t buy me this for me Christmas that I’m going to disown him. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/2 "2005-08-23T01:56:49Z")
Oh yeah man, this has been on my Amazon Wish List for two weeks now! The release of the set is perfect timing for us new “watchers.” $140 for the entire series is a real bargain, and hopefully I’ll have some more [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) Visa bonus points to apply by then as well. It’ll be a big present I will give to myself. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/3 "2005-08-23T02:07:25Z")
I’ve had it on mine for about a week myself but only just now thought to post about it to tell anyone else that might not know. I can’t remember where but I’ve also read that Whedon has authorized a similarly discounted set for _Angel_ that will come out not long after this one but if it is, Amazon’s not listing it. If true, though, one could get the entire run of _Buffy_ for $150 (no sales tax in Oregon, yay), _Angel_ for $100, and _Firefly_ for $30. The thirteen best seasons of television ever for less than $300. Whedon truly is my god. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/4 "2005-08-23T02:13:36Z")
This is good news for _everyone_! 😃 I’m a long-time _Buffy_ fan, but am not big on buying TV shows (maybe a favorite season here and there, but rarely an entire series – though, of course, I do own _Firefly_). But this weekend I watched a few reruns, and started thinking that _Buffy_ might just have to become one of those shows that I buy, and now I learn about this set! Thanks, **Aesiron**! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/5 "2005-08-23T03:04:42Z")
It is good news. Now where’s the cash fairy? ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/6 "2005-08-23T14:06:06Z")
**grumble grumble** –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![NoCoolUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NoCoolUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoCoolUserName)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/7 "2005-08-24T02:44:32Z")
Does the set include the true, full-length, nothing cut version of [“ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING”](http://www.upn.com/shows/buffy/episodes/season06/show_07.shtml)? If yes, I’m on it. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/8 "2005-08-24T02:45:32Z")
> [@NoCoolUserName](#): > > Does the set include the true, full-length, nothing cut version of [“ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING”](http://www.upn.com/shows/buffy/episodes/season06/show_07.shtml)? If yes, I’m on it. It better! ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Macphisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Ms\_Macphisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Macphisto)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/9 "2005-08-24T06:14:57Z")
That’s very cool. I like Buffy, but I’ve been too cheap to buy the individual series sets. One question though - does anyone have any idea why it would be so expensive through [Amazon.ca](http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000ARSJVU/qid=1124864180/sr=8-5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl74/701-3907630-3741128)? They’re asking for $244.99CDN, which at current exchange rates is quite a bit more than $139.99US. I’m quite sure I could find it cheaper elsewhere, even sticking with Canadian sources, I’m just curious about the discrepancy. ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/10 "2005-08-24T07:34:11Z")
Damn, and I just bought several seasons. Bah! Bah I say! ---
**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/11 "2005-08-24T08:23:29Z")
> [@NoCoolUserName](#): > > Does the set include the true, full-length, nothing cut version of [“ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING”](http://www.upn.com/shows/buffy/episodes/season06/show_07.shtml)? If yes, I’m on it. Is the version on the sixth season’s box set not the full one? (I haven’t bought any of the last four seasons yet.) ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/12 "2005-08-24T12:03:16Z")
> [@MidnightRadio](#): > > Is the version on the sixth season’s box set not the full one? (I haven’t bought any of the last four seasons yet.) My question exactly : I have both the European release of Season 6 and the single DVD with this episode and they are 100% the same. Is there a different version available? If so, what is the difference? ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/13 "2005-08-24T14:49:44Z")
The R-1 DVD’s of the 6th season have the full version of Once More, With Feeling. I’m sure the complete series set will as well. **Scoundrel** , the only different version of OMWF I’m aware of is the shortened TV broadcast version. OMWF runs like 10 minutes long. UPN allowed Mutant Enemy to run the full episode once, but when it was rerun it was shaved down to fit within a standard hour bloc. It may have been cut even further for airings in syndication – typically when shows are syndicated 30 seconds or a minute are chopped from the running time in order to squeeze in a few extra commercials, and this does happen to the syndie versions of other Buffy episodes. In all cases, the DVD’s include the full first-run episode before any cuts. Most DVD’s of current series operate the same way, restoring the seconds that are cut from syndie versions. Some older shows may not have surviving copies of uncut episodes, so the DVD is made from the slightly shorter syndie versions that are much easier to find (because many copies were made and sent to stations all over the country). This is the rumor about the recent Cosby Show S1 DVD, for instance. As for OMWF, my recollection is that the shortened broadcast version cuts the overture (the scene in the beginning where Dawn, Willow and Tara run around trying to use the bathroom) as well as much of Dawn’s dance with the henchmen before Sweet shows up, with other small bits shaved to get a few seconds here and there, e.g. Anya’s “Did it sing?”, IIRC. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/14 "2005-08-24T15:19:12Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > As for OMWF, my recollection is that the shortened broadcast version cuts the overture (the scene in the beginning where Dawn, Willow and Tara run around trying to use the bathroom) as well as much of Dawn’s dance with the henchmen before Sweet shows up, with other small bits shaved to get a few seconds here and there, e.g. Anya’s “Did it sing?”, IIRC. I know that on FX, they also cut down “I’ve Got a Theory.” It ends after Anya’s Bunny solo. I think Buffy’s “Life’s a Show” is cut down a bit, during the guitar/dancing part. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/15 "2005-08-24T15:58:15Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > As for OMWF, my recollection is that the shortened broadcast version cuts the overture (the scene in the beginning where Dawn, Willow and Tara run around trying to use the bathroom) as well as much of Dawn’s dance with the henchmen before Sweet shows up, with other small bits shaved to get a few seconds here and there, e.g. Anya’s “Did it sing?”, IIRC. There’s an overture? Dawn dances with the henchmen?? Anya makes another funny?!? I think I’m having trouble breathing… I wasn’t really into _Buffy_ (or Joss Whedon) until this episode, so I didn’t tape it until it was re-run. Of course now I don’t remember all of that extra stuff from the original broadcast version, because the re-run is what I’ve watched over and over and over – in fact it never occurred to me that I might be missing anything, so I never bothered getting this episode on DVD. Before, the boxed set was just a “love to have” on my wish list … now it’s being upgraded to “must have”! ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/16 "2005-08-24T16:49:42Z")
**Misnomer** , any episode of Buffy you see on FX will be missing a couple jokes. The one-off quips are a good place to shave becaue they’re self-contained and they often have camera cuts in there already which are easier to splice together than a long master shot. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Amok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@Amok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amok)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/17 "2005-08-24T17:12:09Z")
Yeah, I can’t watch the episodes on FX because of that. With most shows in syndication I wouldn’t even notice the cuts, but I know the Buffy eps well enough due to DVDs that the cuts really stick out to me. The last time I noticed they were showing an episode on FX and I turned to it, it was _Intervention_, and… Hmm, guess I should spoiler my description of it: Anyways, it was the scene where Buffy returns home and the rest of the gang mistakes her for the Buffybot. They cut the funniest lines out of the scene, including Buffy’s classic line to Xander (might be slightly wrong since I’m quoting from memory), “I’m not having sex with Spike, but I’m starting to think you are”, and Anya’s bit about denial and anger. After that I just couldn’t keep watching, and changed the channel. The quips are often my favorite part of an episode, so if they’re not there, it’s just not the same. Anyways, I have all the seasons on DVD, so I won’t be getting the collector’s set, but it looks like a nice deal. ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/18 "2005-08-24T18:21:58Z")
Motherfucker. I literally just got done finishing off my Angel/Buffy/Firefly dvd collection last month. Damn you, world. At least I got everything used (save Firefly) so I didn’t spend **too** much more… ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/19 "2005-08-24T18:31:34Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > As for OMWF, my recollection is that the shortened broadcast version cuts the overture (the scene in the beginning where Dawn, Willow and Tara run around trying to use the bathroom) as well as much of Dawn’s dance with the henchmen before Sweet shows up, with other small bits shaved to get a few seconds here and there, e.g. Anya’s “Did it sing?”, IIRC. > > –Cliffy You’re right, but all of these are on the regular season DVD. It has the full episode, which was only shown (as far as I know) the original night of airing. It went 10 minutes longer than the hour long slot. (The DVD also has a karaoke feature for OMWF. So. much. fun.!) ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211/20 "2005-08-24T18:52:13Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > You’re right, but all of these are on the regular season DVD. It has the full episode, which was only shown (as far as I know) the original night of airing. It went 10 minutes longer than the hour long slot. Did I miss something? 😕 Everything you just said was in the same post of **Cliffy** ’s that you quoted from… (He didn’t mention the karaoke feature, though. :)) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-for-big-bad-voodoo-lou-me-and-other-btvs-converts/318211.md?page=2)