# Good news, George R.R. Martin fans! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [August 28, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694 "2021-08-28T21:32:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JohnnyEcks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnnyecks/32/18197_2.png) [@JohnnyEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnyEcks)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/1 "2021-08-28T21:32:30Z")
No, not that. He’s announced that he’s finished principal photography on Night of the Cooters, based on the Harold Waldrop short story, with a screenplay by Joe Lansdale, and directed by and starring Vincent D’Onofrio. It’s about what happens when the Martians from HG Well’s “War of the Worlds” land in Texas, and discover the inhabitants to be…. A bit harder targets than the British. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/2 "2021-08-28T21:41:53Z")
I wish he would just let someone else “co-author” the other books. It’s painfully obvious to the world that he doesn’t want to do them. ---
**Author:** ![Retzbu\_Tox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/retzbu_tox/32/11829_2.png) [@Retzbu\_Tox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Retzbu_Tox)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/3 "2021-08-29T01:01:52Z")
I am a former fan. I enjoyed _Nightflyers_, _Sand Kings_, _Fevre Dream_, _Tuf Voyaging_, _Max Headroom_, _Beauty and the Beast_, and _Wild Cards_. I had enthusiastic anticipation for each new project. Once he started writing the _Song of Ice and Fire_ books, and it became evident that his progress would be glacial (all ice, no fire), my enthusiasm progressively waned with each geological epoch that elapsed between entries in the series. At this time, I find GRRM to be a source of annoyance. I might watch Game of Thrones or read future books if someone was willing to pay me for performing that chore. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/4 "2021-08-29T02:34:44Z")
> [@JohnnyEcks](#): > > No, not that. It’s never that. ---
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Should be a fun movie. I read the story back in college, and was greatly entertained by it. I always have felt like it would transfer well to film. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/6 "2021-08-29T03:01:36Z")
> [@Retzbu\_Tox](#): > > I am a former fan. I enjoyed _Nightflyers_ , _Sand Kings_ , _Fevre Dream_ , _Tuf Voyaging_ , _Max Headroom_ , _Beauty and the Beast_ , and _Wild Cards_ . I’m still bitter about Kid Dinosaur. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/7 "2021-08-29T03:16:30Z")
I feel a little bit bad for George at this point. He can’t share anything about his life, up to and including what he had for breakfast this morning, without the internet saying, “Scrambled eggs? You wasted time making fucking scrambled eggs? Get your ass back to work on _Winds_ you scrambling motherfucker!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/8 "2021-08-29T03:37:56Z")
Games of Thrones, 1996 Clash of Kings, 1999 Storm of Swords, 2000 A Feast for Crows, 2005 A Dance with Dragons, 2011 And 10 years later I reserve the right to feel bitter if he’s helming new projects instead of finishing the blessed book we’ve been waiting for since 2011. Now, there’s an argument that artists don’t owe their product to their audience, to which I respond that the man signed a contract and he’s clearly NOT interested in meeting it. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/9 "2021-08-29T04:45:03Z")
I just put my Song of Ice and Fire books in the Goodwill box. If the man doesn’t care to finish, I see no reason to keep them. ---
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Big _Wild Cards_ fan (I found the first two books at the same time in '87; gold!), and still a fan today, but less and less. I’ve had the latest (I think), _Joker Moon_, for weeks and barely a third of the way in. I’ve yet to read a single one of his Game of Thrones stuff, or whatever it’s called. Not really my genre anyway, and never liked that it ‘took away’ from _Wild Cards_ time. I’m not bitter! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Retzbu\_Tox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/retzbu_tox/32/11829_2.png) [@Retzbu\_Tox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Retzbu_Tox)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/11 "2021-08-31T14:44:58Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > I’m still bitter about Kid Dinosaur. YES!!! 100% with you on that. ---
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If you read the interviews, Kid Dinosaur was created specifically to be killed. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/13 "2021-09-07T15:35:38Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > A Dance with Dragons, 2011 > > And 10 years later I reserve the right to feel bitter if he’s helming new projects instead of finishing the blessed book we’ve been waiting for since 2011. 2/3rds of A Dance of Dragons in 2011, you didn’t get the full book. It was missing the Battle Of Ice, the Battle of Mereen and some vital Sansa stuff. He was forced by his published to publish something otherwise they’d want the advances back. Obviously he’s too rich for this to work again. So I’d like at least to get the rest of A Dance With Dragons. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-news-george-r-r-martin-fans/949694/14 "2021-09-07T15:45:33Z")
Yeah, I don’t really see it as very realistic he ever finishes _A Song of Ice and Fire_, it isn’t like he’s been sitting at home with writer’s block for a decade+. He has been incredibly active with any number of projects; the man keeps busy working. It’s just quite obvious the work he wants to do isn’t finishing his book series. He has given regular updates on the next book in the series, and certainly it seems he’s made time to do some writing on it over the last decade, but it’s equally obvious the era of his life where he was willing to work on it day, in day, out, 8+ hours a day which can produce a finished novel fairly quickly, has long since passed him by. Most authors I’ve ever seen interviewed about their writing process, in terms of authors who have a long-published list of novel-length works, say they work at writing a novel like it’s a full-time job. They keep a discipline, and they don’t work on other things until it is complete. That sort of discipline is how what I guess you’d call the famous “prolific” authors with a steady rate of finished novels all said they worked. Your Tom Clancy / John Grisham / Stephen King types. Certainly, some great novelists who will go down as some of the best writers of all time took decades on their seminal works. No offense against Martin, but he’s working on an installment in a long running popular fantasy series, he’s not writing _Ulysses_ or _The Sound and the Fury_ (although hilariously both were written in much shorter time than any of Martin’s recent installments in Ice and Fire; and in Faulkner’s case he was basically working on several short stories and another novel at the same time.) ---
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I’d have to go back and re-read at this point. While I enjoyed the books, there is no way that’s happening even if something else came out. I’m too salty about being left on huge cliffhangers for years, not that I really remember what they were anyway. ---
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I’m not seeing what’s in it for him at this point; his story’s been told via the TV show, and he’s going to get bitched at regardless, so why finish if he can just do other stuff and fend off the low-key griping that he’s received for a decade plus now, instead of finishing, getting a louder outcry, and starting the timer on “A Dream of Spring” all over again.