# Good performances by otherwise "bad" actors

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 9, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212 "2012-10-09T14:12:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212/41 "2012-10-11T04:59:43Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Keanu Reeves was also fantastic in _River’s Edge_.
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> Why does everybody judge Keanu by his Bill and Ted movies? I even think those were pretty good for silly comedies.

Agreed- people also lambast his performance in Coppola’s DRACULA.

Let’s see- Jonathan Harker is an unimaginative solicitor who soon finds himself overwhelmed when confronted with undead monsters who threaten his beloved & his homeland.

How was he not perfect for that role?

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212/42 "2012-10-11T05:52:23Z")

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> [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#):
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> People think Bill Paxton is a bad actor? I mean, he’s not Daniel Day-Lewis or anything, but he’s perfectly decent:
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> **One False Move  
> Apollo 13  
> A Simple Plan  
> Tombstone  
> Frailty**
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> And of course…
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> **Aliens**

Also, “Near Dark”.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212/43 "2012-10-11T07:12:11Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Agreed- people also lambast his performance in Coppola’s DRACULA.
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> Let’s see- Jonathan Harker is an unimaginative solicitor who soon finds himself overwhelmed when confronted with undead monsters who threaten his beloved & his homeland.
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> How was he not perfect for that role?

He couldn’t do a consistent accent.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212/44 "2012-10-11T07:14:45Z")

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> Bruce Willis- **Twelve Monkeys** he was really, really good

As was Brad Pitt, playing a role well outside of his usual range.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212/45 "2012-10-11T09:57:58Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Agreed- people also lambast his performance in Coppola’s DRACULA.
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> Let’s see- Jonathan Harker is an unimaginative solicitor who soon finds himself overwhelmed when confronted with undead monsters who threaten his beloved & his homeland.
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> How was he not perfect for that role?

Monica Belluci was seducing him and he seemed upset at the prospect? Seriously, I did not think his performance was poor. Not great, but got the job done.

I thought he was the least good thing about the Matrix.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212/46 "2012-10-11T15:27:41Z")

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Adam Sandler in \*Hotel Transylvania \*(I know, not exactly high art, but I can’t _stand_ Sandler, I think he’s a terrible and highly annoying actor, and I thought he did a great job in this one)

Jim Carrey in _The Truman Show_

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212/47 "2012-10-11T16:15:27Z")

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Brad Pitt and Bruce Willis are bad actors?

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**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212/48 "2012-10-11T16:29:59Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Brad Pitt and Bruce Willis are bad actors?

Yeah, there’s a big difference between limited range (although Pitt has gotten notably more versatile over the years) and bad acting. Pitt and Willis both have plenty of good performances under their belts.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212/49 "2012-10-11T16:34:56Z")

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Adam Sandler in **Spanglish**.

And I wouldln’t say he was _good_ in it, but Rob Snyder was the best thing in Judge Dredd.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-performances-by-otherwise-bad-actors/637212/50 "2012-10-11T18:50:38Z")

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> [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#):
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> Yeah, there’s a big difference between limited range (although Pitt has gotten notably more versatile over the years) and bad acting. Pitt and Willis both have plenty of good performances under their belts.

I should have been clearer when I mentioned him. I think Twelve Monkeys was Willis’ _first_ great performance, and was the movie that let people see how good an actor he could be.

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