# Good riddance to a traitorous asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 10, 2001, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577 "2001-11-10T04:11:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Opus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/858c86/32.png) [@Opus1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Opus1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/1 "2001-11-10T04:11:42Z")
[http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story\_page/0,5936,3191386%5E954,00.html](http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,3191386%255E954,00.html) I can’t even think of a decent rant. I hope he suffers long, painful, lingering death on the Taleban front lines. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/2 "2001-11-10T04:17:37Z")
Something sounds phony here…My BS sense is tingling… ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/3 "2001-11-10T04:41:09Z")
Yeah, me too. But this evidently is a real story. I thought it sounded like New York Post material, and yep, there it was. [http://www.nypost.com/seven/11042001/news/regionalnews/33342.htm](http://www.nypost.com/seven/11042001/news/regionalnews/33342.htm) > [@](#): > > TRAITOR: ‘I’LL KILL AMERICANS’ > > By HANNELE RUBIN > > BETRAYAL: > New Yorker Mohammad Junaid, waiting in Pakistan to join the Taliban, went on his jihad after his mom was rescued from the WTC. > > - ITN/Channel 5 News > > November 4, 2001 – This is the face of a traitor - a New Yorker who bought a one-way ticket to Pakistan because he wants to sign up for the Taliban and kill Americans. > > He left on his likely suicide mission just one week after his mother was led to safety from the collapsing World Trade Center by the city’s brave firefighters and policemen, many of whom were among the more than 4,000 victims of the terrorist strikes on the Twin Towers on Sept. 11. > > The 26-year-old son of Pakistani immigrants said he went to elementary and high school in the city and studied at a med school for two years before dropping out to join a dot-com company. When that folded, he took a $70,000-a-year job as a programmer for a Muslim-oriented company, a position he quit just days before embarking on his self-appointed jihad. > > The bespectacled Junaid said his anti-American anger began when he was the only Muslim child at the Catholic school he attended in the city. He said he always felt left out at the school. > > He said his family had immigrated to the United States from Pakistan in 1967 to take advantage of the “freedoms and opportunities” in New York City. > > He said his grandfather instilled in him the belief that “your loyalty is with Islam. Your loyalty is with the Muslims. Just because you’re in New York, your loyalty is still with them.” So it’s considerably more complex than the simplistic “Traitor!” headline would make it out to be. And evidently Damon Johnston similarly specializes in over-simplification for his Down Under readership, in painting with a broad brush. His other stuff that’s posted on the Web is similarly oversimplified. [http://www.news.com.au/common/printpage/0,6093,2987575,00.html](http://www.news.com.au/common/printpage/0,6093,2987575,00.html) > [@](#): > > Bush pledges $150b to fend off recession > Damon Johnston in New York > 05Oct01 > > A CASH injection of $US75 billion ($150 billion) will be delivered to try and save the ailing US economy from recession. > > President George W. Bush unveiled the package during his second trip to New York since the terror strikes of September 11. > > Mr Bush dodged having to use the R-word and instead attempted to rally economic spirits and pledge government help. > > The $US75 billion package – on top of $US35 billion already directed to airlines and boosting security – could force the US budget into deficit. [http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/story\_page/0,5936,3180143%5E904,00.html](http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,3180143%255E904,00.html) > [@](#): > > **Bin Laden’s cornered: US** > > DAMON JOHNSTON in New York > 04nov01 > OSAMA bin Laden may be close to being cornered in a handful of mountain hideouts as the US tightens its noose around the terrorist leader. > > The Pentagon said yesterday that almost four weeks of air strikes and raids by special forces units had narrowed the hunt for the world’s most wanted man. He’s a New York correspondent for the “News Limited” of Australia. > **[Australia Visa - Application, Requirements | VisaHQ](https://www.visahq.com/australia/)** > > Australia visa services for citizens of United States of America residing in United States of America. Detailed Australia visa requirements, application. > [@](#): > > News Limited of Australia > Papers include: Adelaide Advertiser, The Australian, Courier Mail, Daily Telegraph, Herald-Sun, Mercury, Sunday Mail, Sunday Herald-Sun, Sunday Times, Sunday Telegraph [http://www.news.com.au](http://www.news.com.au) ---
**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/4 "2001-11-10T04:44:33Z")
Was about to say the story’s bullshit, but then I thought, “Gee, the New York is shocked like sounds an awful lot like a New York Post story.” SHITSHITSHITSHIT. Just previewed and saw that **DDG** got here before me. And found a copy of the story too! I’ve been scooped. SHITSHITSHITSHIT. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/5 "2001-11-10T04:47:48Z")
Geez, Ducks. You rock! I want to have ducklings with you.\* \*We’ll discuss the Mad Hatter thread later… ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/6 "2001-11-10T04:51:20Z")
What, did the guy hold a press conference before he left? How did they get a quote from him? Why would he talk to an American reporter before he left? Somebody isn’t playing by the rules… ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/7 "2001-11-10T06:13:38Z")
Oh, yeah, Spooje, he gave interviews and everything, but not in America–in London and Pakistan. > [@](#): > > I did not feel any remorse for the Americans [who died]," Mohammad Junaid said in Islamabad, Pakistan, on Thursday as he waited to be taken across the border into Afghanistan to join the troops of the Taliban. > > “I’m willing to kill the Americans. I will kill every American that I see in Afghanistan. And I’ll kill every American soldier that I see in Pakistan,” Junaid boasted to British television correspondent, Jon Gilbert, in an interview for the ITN Channel 5 network. > > Junaid was thought to be accompanied by several British Muslims, with whom he met up in London two weeks ago, according to a report in London’s Sun newspaper. > > The American was interviewed by the newspaper, along with two other British-born Muslims who also said they were returning to Pakistan to fight for the Taliban. That’s what I’m saying, it’s more complex. Here’s somebody who sees his chance for his 15 minutes, plus his grampa always told him, “You’re a Moslem, so stick with the Moslems”, plus the kids at the Catholic school never wanted to play with him. So it’s Payback Time for America, plus he gets to be on the tee-vee. It’s sad, really. ---
**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/8 "2001-11-10T06:23:06Z")
I’d want to see some confirmation that his mother actually was rescued from the trade center. ---
**Author:** ![EvilGhandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@EvilGhandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilGhandi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/9 "2001-11-10T06:41:39Z")
Fuck you guys. If fuckwhit wanted to kill Americans why didn’t he just stay here. After all America is a fine place to find Americans. I’d give him 10 mins with me or any of my buds. Shit we’d line up to give him the chance. No this pussy did what all pussies do. Yell “I’ll kick your ass” as he ran away. Good fucking riddance. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/10 "2001-11-10T06:52:25Z")
Since his parents immigrated in '67, and he’s only 26 years old, I’ll assume he was born in the U.S. and is, therefore, a U.S. citizen. His statement and more importantly his actions to join the Taliban to kill Americans makes him, by definition, a traitor. I hope we can catch him, for he will surely be hanged. (well, lethally injected) Asshole is too good of a word to describe it. ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/11 "2001-11-10T06:55:28Z")
I second that emotion **EvilGhandi**! ---
**Author:** ![naughtysiggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c4cdca/32.png) [@naughtysiggie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naughtysiggie)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/12 "2001-11-10T06:57:32Z")
I heard about this earlier today. Rather sick individual. I say send the butthead back to Pakistan if that is where he so longs to be. ---
**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/13 "2001-11-10T06:57:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EvilGhandi \* > \*\*Fuck you guys. > > … > > No this pussy did what all pussies do. Yell “I’ll kick your ass” as he ran away. > > Good fucking riddance. \*\* And then he ran away. ---
**Author:** ![EvilGhandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@EvilGhandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilGhandi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/14 "2001-11-10T07:30:07Z")
Im just guessing, But I think Jon is taking issue with the fact I only post on friday night. Sorry if it appears to be running away to you, but unlike some of you I do not check my threads by the hour. I used to post daily but became so disgusted with the cowards on board I had to curtail my participitation to once a week. This was for my sanity. It agravated me to homicidal levels when I read some of the members comments. Now that the board is settled a bit and it has been a couple of months (almost) since the incedent that got my hair up, I may return to daily posting. But Understand, I am still angry. In fact furious. That anyone would dare attack America and not think to suffer the most extreme of consequense. And that there are those among me who would support them. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/15 "2001-11-10T07:56:20Z")
I think this situation is highly instructive about the mindset of the people we are dealing with. But of course, that requires that we pay attention. ---
**Author:** ![EvilGhandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@EvilGhandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilGhandi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/16 "2001-11-10T08:33:48Z")
Good god Stoid, What the heck are you talking about. Christ, you might have well said " we must remain forever vigelent". But someone already said that. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/17 "2001-11-10T08:57:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spooje \* > \*\*Something sounds phony here…My BS sense is tingling… \*\* Spider-Man has his Spidey Sense. Were you perhaps bitten by a radioactive dung beetle or something? Marc ---
**Author:** ![ultress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7c8e57/32.png) [@ultress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultress)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/18 "2001-11-10T14:28:37Z")
Atleast he left America. It’s the ones that stay here and have his feelings that we need to worry about. He’ll get his on the battleground. On the homefront we don’t know who these people are. ---
**Author:** ![Gartog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/22d042/32.png) [@Gartog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gartog)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/19 "2001-11-10T14:40:28Z")
According to the British press several of our Moselms have gone to fight in the Jihad. And a fair few have been quoted as being saying they support theier cause. The first time I read these stories I hoped they would go and . . . .not come back. But know I only wish that they would not fight at all but try and and live in peace in a place where they were born and brought up. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2001, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577/20 "2001-11-10T14:50:21Z")
In general, I see this as perfect example of the effect religious extremism has on people. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-a-traitorous-asshole/92577.md?page=2)