# Good riddance to bad rubbish: Chuck Colson is dead **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 22, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550 "2012-04-22T02:04:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/61 "2012-04-23T07:07:50Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > How can you undermine the democratic process with a bugle? I could demonstrate, but you wouldn’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/62 "2012-04-23T07:46:44Z")
He’s the Tricky Dicky Bugle Boy of Company B! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/63 "2012-04-23T08:00:48Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > I’m not even trying to defend the Republicans, you moron. Let me break it down for you: > > Sane: “Republican social policies discriminate against homosexuals” > Insane: “Republicans are using biological warfare to kill American citizens” > > See the difference? Yeah, the second one is a lie. You are distorting what I’ve been saying in order to slander me and distract from the history of the Republican party. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/64 "2012-04-23T13:26:40Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > You bash me instead of trying to defend the Republicans because they are simply indefensible. I’m neither bashing you nor defending the Republican party, you stupid git (okay, just there I bashed you). I’m telling you that you’re an insane person. Oh, and nobody has lied or distorted anything you said in order to slander you. [You said](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14990741&postcount=28) > [@](#): > > The Republicans have always essentially looked at AIDS as a biological weapon to kill gays and Africans; something to be encouraged, not stopped. To reiterate, you are a crazy person. Were I even interested in defending the Republican Party, there is no need to defend them from your accusations; you sound like a paranoid meth-head who’s been high a week straight. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/65 "2012-04-23T13:45:25Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > I’m telling you that you’re an insane person. Oh, and nobody has lied or distorted anything you said in order to slander you. You said > > > [@](#): > > > > The Republicans have always essentially looked at AIDS as a biological weapon to kill gays and Africans; something to be encouraged, not stopped. In other words, _yes_ what I said was distorted. I didn’t say they created it as a biological weapon; I said that they looked at it as one. That’s exactly what they are doing every time they attribute it as God’s punishment on homosexuals. That’s exactly what they’ve been doing since Reagan; trying to hold back the fight against AIDS as much as possible in the hopes of killing as many homosexuals as they could. > [@Dissonance](#): > > To reiterate, you are a crazy person. Were I even interested in defending the Republican Party, there is no need to defend them from your accusations; you sound like a paranoid meth-head who’s been high a week straight. No, I sound like someone who is willing to admit the murderous bigotry of the Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/66 "2012-04-23T14:09:47Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > No, I sound like someone who is willing to admit the murderous bigotry of the Republicans. Wouldn’t that “admission” mean more coming from a Republican? ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/67 "2012-04-23T14:23:32Z")
Isn’t hate wonderful …sometimes…the right kind of hate anyway? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/68 "2012-04-23T14:25:52Z")
He paid his debt to society so why obsess about the past? Did he do any good? Damn if I know. I’m not one he must answer to now. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/69 "2012-04-23T14:47:56Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > In other words, _yes_ what I said was distorted. I didn’t say they created it as a biological weapon; I said that they looked at it as one. And on top of having issues with reality; you have issues with remembering what was said for more than 15 seconds. You said **A Monkey With a Gun** was lying and distorting what you were saying to slander your poor self when he said > [@](#): > > Insane: “Republicans are using biological warfare to kill American citizens” Funny, I don’t see him saying you said Republicans created AIDS as a biological weapon anywhere in that sentence, and can’t find anyone saying that anywhere in this whole thread. In what way is your statement > [@](#): > > The Republicans have always essentially looked at AIDS as a biological weapon to kill gays and Africans; something to be encouraged, not stopped. and **AMWaG’s** paraphrasing of it > [@](#): > > Insane: “Republicans are using biological warfare to kill American citizens” different in any fundamental way? > [@Der Trihs](#): > > That’s exactly what they are doing every time they attribute it as God’s punishment on homosexuals. That’s exactly what they’ve been doing since Reagan; trying to hold back the fight against AIDS as much as possible in the hopes of killing as many homosexuals as they could. Care to point out where in the Republican Party platform they’ve ever claimed AIDS was God’s punishment on homosexuals (and black people, you forgot about how you fantasize that the Repugs were cheering on every non-white person wiped out by this blessed biological weapon)? And no, nut bag statements from the likes of Jerry Falwell don’t count as a statement of the official Republican Party platform. Oh, and I seem to recall some guy named [C. Everett Koop](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Everett_Koop) being one of the Evil Xian Republicans under Reagan who went out of his way during his tenure as Surgeon General to ensure as many homosexuals and non-white people died of AIDS to further God’s plans. Oh wait, that only happened in crazy world. He actually > [@](#): > > AIDS: Koop was Surgeon General when public health authorities first began to take notice of AIDS.[12] Koop wrote the official U.S. policy on the disease and took unprecedented action in mailing AIDS information to every U.S. household. Gay activists and their supporters were unhappy with the way in which he targeted gay sex and the risk of infection through anal sexual intercourse as primary vectors of the disease, but Koop was unapologetic claiming such activities entail risks several orders of magnitude greater than other means of transmission. Religious activists, upset over the pamphlet’s frank discussion of sexual practices and advocacy of condom use, called for Koop’s resignation.[13] Koop also infuriated some former supporters by advocating sex education in schools, possibly as early as the third grade, including later instruction regarding the proper use of condoms to combat the spread of AIDS. While a straightforward telling to the public about the disease was controversial, Koop was also criticized by some health activists who claimed that his office had not gone far enough in attempting to develop a cure or vaccine, reducing the role of his office to educating the public on health concerns. To summarize yet again, you are an insane person with a view of life hopelessly distorted by a maniacal hatred of religion and republicans. Notice how you assume everyone telling you how nuts you are is doing it to protect the Republicans? I don’t think anyone who has is even a Republican, just sane. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/70 "2012-04-23T19:31:57Z")
Still, “CREEP” is a kinda nice acronym… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/71 "2012-04-23T19:47:00Z")
SLITHER would have been more apt. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/72 "2012-04-23T20:31:13Z")
> [@Lancia](#): > > For your consideration: > > [Charles Colson Dead At 80 - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=649206) Ah, yes. **Qin** is trolling; how nice. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/73 "2012-04-23T20:35:13Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > They pretty much are the same thing. The Republicans have always essentially looked at AIDS as a biological weapon to kill gays and Africans; something to be encouraged, not stopped. **Trihs** , you’ve been on this kick longer than I’ve been on the board. I’m a big fan of grossly exagerrated and distorted hyperbolic caricatures, but when you defend this one you do sound like you’ve hopped a ride on the crazy train. It was also part of a propaganda campaign used by our enemies, which makes it repulsive. Note: TriPolar is not now, nor has ever been a Republican, or Republican sympathizer or collaborator. Note: actually TriPolar may have technically been a Republican for one day in order to vote for John McCain in the 2000 primary. but rather than self loathe about it, he doesn’t bother to discover the details and would prefer to live in ignorant bliss about the incident. ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/74 "2012-04-23T20:38:28Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I could demonstrate, but you wouldn’t like it. This one time…at band camp… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/75 "2012-04-23T21:36:06Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Isn’t hate wonderful …sometimes…the right kind of hate anyway? More wonderful than you know. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/76 "2012-04-23T23:10:53Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Care to point out where in the Republican Party platform they’ve ever claimed AIDS was God’s punishment on homosexuals (and black people, you forgot about how you fantasize that the Repugs were cheering on every non-white person wiped out by this blessed biological weapon)? And no, nut bag statements from the likes of Jerry Falwell don’t count as a statement of the official Republican Party platform. In other words, not only am I right _but you know it_. You demand a cite; but then carefully ahead of time define away any possible cite as not counting. Nor did I ever say a thing about official party platforms. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/77 "2012-04-23T23:58:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > He’s the Tricky Dicky Bugle Boy of Company B! Oh, brav-O! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/78 "2012-04-24T00:26:55Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > In other words, not only am I right _but you know it_. You demand a cite; but then carefully ahead of time define away any possible cite as not counting. Nor did I ever say a thing about official party platforms. In other words, “I ain’t got shit.” ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/79 "2012-04-24T00:39:58Z")
\*Branded! \* Marked with a coward’s shaaaaaame… What do you do when you’re branded? Well, you fight for your naaaaame! …what’s that? Oh, _Colson_? Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550/80 "2012-04-24T00:54:28Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > In other words, not only am I right _but you know it_. No, in other words not only are you delusional, you are so delusional that you think other people consider your views to be sane. But whatever, we’re all secret Christians and Republicans trying to slander and defame you to divert attention from all the biological warfare we’re up to. You know, like how Koop said abstinence until marriage was the only way to fight AIDS and homosexuals were only getting AIDS because of God’s wrath at their sinful ways. Oh and black people must have done something to piss off God too since he was encouraging them to get infected just like all the other Republicans were. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish-chuck-colson-is-dead/619550.md?page=5)