# Good Things Accomplished By Republicans

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 20, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208 "2016-12-20T04:26:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208/61 "2016-12-21T02:02:37Z")

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Just a note that JC’s note…

> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I know it’s going to be impossible to completely avoid such, but let’s try to dispense with the cheap shots in this thread.

…applies generally, including to comments like this:

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Holy shit, if conservatives loved humanity the way they love their fucking guns, what a better world it would be. More permits=more guns carried=more blood in the streets.

Let’s try to stay on track.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208/62 "2016-12-21T02:48:39Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> Earned Income tax Credit - Proposed under Nixon, enacted under Ford, and greatly expanded under Reagan. It’s one of our most effective anti-poverty programs and the largest for helping the working poor. It still gets support from the current batch of Republicans. Last year, facing provisions in the law set to expire, there was an opportunity to gut the program by simply doing nothing. The Republican controlled Congress didn’t just extend the provisions it made them permanent as part of the overall budget deal. If you care about anti-poverty measures Republicans are a big piece of what’s worked.

Doesn’t that also mean that the EITC was proposed and enacted under a Democratic Congress, greatly expanded under a Democratic House, and made permanent under Obama?

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208/63 "2016-12-21T12:32:27Z")

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Civil Liberties Act signed by Reagan in 1988, which hopefully set precedent that will prevent a Muslim Registry.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208/64 "2016-12-21T21:07:22Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> The fact that Hillary Rodham Clinton will never be the President of the United States should rank as one of their greatest achievements. (Although to be fair to her Clinton did a lot of the heavy lifting herself on this one.)

> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Why?

> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> One reason suffices for all. The Supreme Court.

That’s just wrong on such a fundamental level, it’s a wonder the pixels didn’t refuse to allow themselves to be arranged in such a configuration.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208/65 "2016-12-22T03:05:54Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Holy shit, if conservatives loved humanity the way they love their fucking guns, what a better world it would be. More permits=more guns carried=more blood in the streets.

Cite? I hear that “blood in the streets” comment from libs all the time. Do you have any evidence that concealed carry laws are causing the modern day equivalent of the OK Corral gunfight?

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208/66 "2016-12-22T03:27:28Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Cite? I hear that “blood in the streets” comment from libs all the time. Do you have any evidence that concealed carry laws are causing the modern day equivalent of the OK Corral gunfight?

Can you guys take gun control to another thread?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208/67 "2016-12-22T13:24:38Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> Didn’t Lincoln think blacks and whites couldn’t live together, shouldn’t marry, and that the freed slaves should leave the country?

As did most progressives back then. Don’t judge historical figures by the standards and contexts of today. When you’re raised in a given environment, you become a product of and carry the values and cultural biases of that environment. There’s no such thing as innate morality.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208/68 "2016-12-22T17:58:38Z")

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President Ford signed the [Education for All Handicapped Children Act of 1975](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_for_All_Handicapped_Children_Act) which implemented special education programs nationwide.

When the Smith family of Rhode Island [brought suit](https://www.oyez.org/cases/1983/82-2120) over the school district’s actions the SCOTUS ruled in March 1984 against their ability to recover attorney’s fees. In response Reagan signed an amendment (passed by a Republican controlled Senate and Democratic controlled House) to the EAHCA to effectively overturn the court’s decision.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208/69 "2016-12-22T18:11:23Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Also, preemptively dismissing accomplishments such as Lincoln’s makes no sense. Imagine if someone started a thread, “Things accomplished by Democrats; please don’t say FDR’s New Deal!”

That is because the GOP was the party of liberalism and egalitarianism back in the 19th century. The modern GOP does not support those things. The democratic party was the party of authoritarianism and social oppression up until the 1950s or so. Efforts to hold up the parties because of what they did in 1870 isn’t really applicable. It is more about liberal vs conservative, not republican vs democrat.

Holding up the GOP because of its anti-slavery efforts is meaningless because the kinds of people who did that wouldn’t be republicans now.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/good-things-accomplished-by-republicans/775208/70 "2016-12-22T19:49:19Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Doesn’t that also mean that the EITC was proposed and enacted under a Democratic Congress, greatly expanded under a Democratic House, and made permanent under Obama?

It definitely has always gotten bipartisan support. It’s a program that I’d give credit to both sides on. There’s enough room to share with all the people involved in creating and supporting it. Since the thread is about good things Republicans accomplished…

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