# Goodbye, H.R. McMaster **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 16, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638 "2018-03-16T02:46:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/41 "2018-03-16T22:49:42Z")
> [@DinoR](#): > > Young Captain McMaster violated orders, rightfully, as part of winning a Silver Star at the Battle of [73 Easting](https://taskandpurpose.com/young-captain-mcmaster-commanded-one-epic-tank-battles-history/). Very interesting video…obviously the perspective of those who have “been there, done that” is not valued by the dumb, arrogant son-of-a-bitch who currently roosts atop the rubble of our government. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/42 "2018-03-16T22:53:04Z")
> [@DinoR](#): > > McMaster was always a poor fit for Trump’s style. The most vocal and dedicated Trump supporters hated him. IMO this isn’t Presidential panic. This is Trump finally getting around to being Trump. McMaster is a genuine war hero, a term has been watered down to refer to anyone who saw combat as a hero. But he hasn’t exactly covered himself in glory as NSA, particularly in publicly defending some Trump policies when there didn’t seem to be any directive for him to do so. It might be completely different behind the scenes, but his actions and overall performance seem to undercut the boldness of his reputation and “speak truth to power” constitutional responsibility ethos behind his dissertation. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/43 "2018-03-19T01:25:22Z")
My brain briefly thought that McMaster-Carr was going out of business. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/44 "2018-03-22T22:33:10Z")
When’s the first war? Bolton to replace McMaster. Interesting my first alert was from the BBC Trump replaces McMaster with Bolton > **[Trump replaces National Security Adviser HR McMaster with John Bolton](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43509695)** > > Defence hawk John Bolton becomes National Security Adviser, in the latest change in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/45 "2018-03-22T22:45:01Z")
How long will Mattis last now? ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/46 "2018-03-22T22:45:19Z")
Stupid motherfucker. Stupid mother fucker. I will never forgive Republicans for voting for this stupid bastard and I’ll never forgive the Democratic Party for nominating a candidate that lost to him. I will never forgive any of them. They’re all stupid motherfuckers and traitors. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/47 "2018-03-22T23:03:18Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Wait, You’re telling me that the inventor of the machine that counts Geigers is actually _named_ Geiger? Robert Bunsen, however, did not invent the Bunsen burner. Some say Peter Desaga deserves the real credit bit in reality Michael Faraday actually invented the gas regulating features that made the sootless burner possible. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/48 "2018-03-22T23:14:59Z")
Well, he already had the cage, so what the hell, throw Bunsen a bone. Fuck Desaga, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/49 "2018-03-22T23:17:02Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Robert Bunsen, however, did not invent the Bunsen burner. Some say Peter Desaga deserves the real credit bit in reality Michael Faraday actually invented the gas regulating features that made the sootless burner possible. > > Stranger > **[Stigler's law of eponymy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigler%27s_law_of_eponymy)** > > Stigler's law of eponymy, proposed by University of Chicago statistics professor Stephen Stigler in his 1980 publication Stigler’s law of eponymy, states that no scientific discovery is named after its original discoverer. Examples include Hubble's law, which was derived by Georges Lemaître two years before Edwin Hubble; the Pythagorean theorem, which was known to Babylonian mathematicians before Pythagoras; and Halley's Comet, which was observed by astronomers since at least 240 BC (although > [@](#): > > Stigler’s law of eponymy is a process proposed by University of Chicago statistics professor Stephen Stigler in his 1980 publication “Stigler’s law of eponymy”.[1] It states that no scientific discovery is named after its original discoverer. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/50 "2018-03-22T23:19:47Z")
Are you sure that wasn’t Oppenheim’s law of eponymy? ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/51 "2018-03-22T23:28:10Z")
We are definitely going to war soon. As I said in the IMHO section, Trump already let it slip with the “major event” comment. I know I’m seen as some kind of crackpot tin-foil hat on this board, but it can’t be denied or blown off as "that’s just what they always say"now. Moves are being made, John Bolton is the national security advisor, and we all know who he is and what he has done. Nothing good is going to come from this. I’ll say it again, expect a false flag attack at any moment now. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/52 "2018-03-22T23:31:40Z")
[praying] military coup, military coup, military coup, pleeeeeeeaaaaaaasssseeeeeeee save us St. Mattis… ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/53 "2018-03-22T23:37:05Z")
Replacing a general with a- do I have this right?- Fox news anchor? What could possibly go wrong? Next, Trump ought to replace Kelly with Wilford Brimley. Seeing him on TV next to Trump and Bolton would be fantastic! ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/54 "2018-03-22T23:47:55Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Replacing a general with a- do I have this right?- Fox news anchor? What could possibly go wrong? > > Next, Trump ought to replace Kelly with Wilford Brimley. Seeing him on TV next to Trump and Bolton would be fantastic! Bolton was UN Ambassador under Bush. He was appointed as a recess appointment because he was too extreme for the Republican controlled Senate. I wish Bolton was just a Fox News blowhard, unfortunately, he’s very bright along with being an ultra hawk. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/55 "2018-03-23T00:04:10Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I wish Bolton was just a Fox News blowhard, unfortunately, he’s very bright along with being an ultra hawk. For values of “very bright” that also include Dr. Sebastian v. Gorka, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/56 "2018-03-23T00:19:32Z")
He is one of the NeoCons that gave us the Iraq war debacle, an extreme hawk. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/57 "2018-03-23T00:23:14Z")
> [@Jacquernagy](#): > > I wonder who will take his place? Joe Arpaio? Dennis Rodman? Kid Rock? Charlie Sheen? There are so many great possibilities. Anyone of these would be infinitely superior to the actual pick on the Reality TV show we call present-day America. Presumably the producers of this reality TV show (or whoever’s sponsoring the commercial messages) want to maximize suspense and excitement. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/58 "2018-03-23T01:04:53Z")
The main stream media knew this ahead of time, demonstrating once again that they’re actually pretty good at reporting the news. And this is terrible for the country, if Bolton actually sways the President on anything. One of the biggest chickenhawk warmongers in the last few decades; if he gets his way, lots of young Americans (and even more from other countries) will die for nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/59 "2018-03-23T01:11:03Z")
On one hand, I feel like Trump is rarely swayed by anyone. It’s hard for me to imagine Bolton talking him into authorizing something he didn’t already want to do. The trouble is if Bolton validates idiotic warmongering ideas by Trump, and enables him to start another debacle like the Iraq war…or far worse…something with North Korea. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/60 "2018-03-23T01:11:28Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > For values of “very bright” that also include Dr. Sebastian v. Gorka, maybe. “Educated stupid,” a Cubist might say. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638.md?page=4)