# Goodbye, H.R. McMaster

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 16, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638 "2018-03-16T02:46:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/81 "2018-03-23T16:13:07Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> …I give Bolton six months to a year max and then he’s out.

Unless he manages to get us all killed first.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/82 "2018-03-23T17:13:25Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Are you sure that wasn’t Oppenheim’s law of eponymy?

Of course Stigler didn’t discover Stigler’s Law, that would be nonsensical.

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> Stigler himself named the sociologist Robert K. Merton as the discoverer of “Stigler’s law” to show that it follows its own decree, though the phenomenon had previously been noted by others.[2]

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**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/83 "2018-03-23T18:45:44Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Six months to a year is plenty of time to get the country into all kinds of horrific warmongering disasters – especially in the runup to the midterms, wherein we will be exhorted to stand united behind our heroic War President.

Remember, Trump got the best reviews of his Presidency from the media and the punditry when he bombed that deserted airfield in Syria. It was described as the day Trump proved he was Presidential material. Trump certainly hasn’t forgotten that.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/84 "2018-03-23T19:16:12Z")

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The best way I can think of to cast this in a positive light is to assume Trump is putting together a posture for his meeting with North Korea. The line is, “You want to talk? Ok, let’s talk. But notice that I have a hawk on my left shoulder, and a hawk on my right shoulder. There in the corner is Mad Dog Mattis, waiting for the order. Disarm or we bomb you.”

Maybe it will be enough to convince Kim Jun Un to back down. I know from where I sit, it looks like Trump just might follow through with the military threat.

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/85 "2018-03-23T19:19:28Z")

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There is NO WAY IN HELL that Trump has the ability to think this strategically. He just wants someone whose mustache will tickle his ass nicely while it’s being licked clean.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/86 "2018-03-23T20:16:06Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> The best way I can think of to cast this in a positive light is to assume Trump is putting together a posture for his meeting with North Korea. The line is, “You want to talk? Ok, let’s talk. But notice that I have a hawk on my left shoulder, and a hawk on my right shoulder. There in the corner is Mad Dog Mattis, waiting for the order. Disarm or we bomb you.”
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> Maybe it will be enough to convince Kim Jun Un to back down. I know from where I sit, it looks like Trump just might follow through with the military threat.

> [@Jacquernagy](#):
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> There is NO WAY IN HELL that Trump has the ability to think this strategically. He just wants someone whose mustache will tickle his ass nicely while it’s being licked clean.

Exactly.

Thump is not capable of uttering a statement like that. He can’t string that many words together, for one thing.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/87 "2018-03-23T20:45:32Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I always thought about HR Pufnstuf, myself.
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> Is Trump just panicking? I can’t find rhyme nor reason in his recent actions.

> [@glowacks](#):
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> He finally realizes that he can’t convince these people that he’s right, and that he just needs to replace whoever disagrees with him.
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> The fact that he might be wrong about something just isn’t within the scope of his cognizance.

That seems to be what is going on. Rumor is, if he sacks his Chief of Staff, he’ll just do without. Presidenting is easy!!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/88 "2018-03-24T08:57:02Z")

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Yes, I saw an article that suggested he was thinking of having three or four people replace the office of chief of staff, with overlapping work assignments and unclear lines of authority. It’s that chaos school of management.

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**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-h-r-mcmaster/810638/89 "2018-03-24T11:20:03Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Yes, I saw an article that suggested he was thinking of having three or four people replace the office of chief of staff, with overlapping work assignments and unclear lines of authority. It’s that chaos school of management.

So hypothetically, pretend that someone other than Trump were following the “chaos school of management”. Is this an oxymoron or are there industries or use cases where this would actually not end in disaster?

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