# Goodbye, Magic! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 8, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445 "2010-06-08T16:48:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/21 "2010-06-09T23:10:23Z")
> [@Rafe\_Hollister](#): > > It amazes me that people ever played this game. I just never could get excited about wizards and all that fantasy shit. But to each their own. There are plenty of folks who don’t get into some of the things I love. **Moderator’s Note:** This; not cool. If you can’t get into it, leave the threads to the people who can. Note that this is not a formal warning, just a note to C&D. Regards, Gukumatz Game Room Moderator ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/22 "2010-06-10T13:02:39Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > You’ve picked a bad time to quit, I think, as Rise of Eldrazi is the most fun expansion in quite some time. Of course, I say that as someone who plays only limited (which is really the best way to play if you have enough time commitments that you can’t spend hours on end building and testing and trading, etc.). > Tonight is my weekly draft group draft. Anyone who lives near San Jose, CA, and wants to draft more often, send me a message. I don’t know, I got tired of the condescension from the uber-competitive types that resulted when I wanted to play some fun combo deck rather than the most ruthlessly efficient deck I could find. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Onimous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Ann\_Onimous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Onimous)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/23 "2010-06-10T13:14:51Z")
My kids are just starting to get into Magic. I wish I still had my old cards, but they got lost in a move somewhere along the way. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/24 "2010-06-10T16:41:09Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > I don’t know, I got tired of the condescension from the uber-competitive types that resulted when I wanted to play some fun combo deck rather than the most ruthlessly efficient deck I could find. That’s one of Magic’s greatest strengths and greatest weakeness… there are so many different ways it can be played. It can be played as pure 100% competition, as creative expression, as storytelling flavor, etc. Which gives a big tent for lots of different players, but also means that if people who approach the game different ways are playing each other it can end up being no fun for anyone. That’s why I stopped playing constructed magic. Limited lets me play 100% competitively to win, but still feel like I can see new and different things every time, and my creativity in deck building can really matter. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/25 "2010-06-10T17:25:25Z")
Wow, I remember when I used to be into Magic, back in the mid 90s. I think I started collecting right around Unlimited and Antiquities–I know I didn’t have any current Arabian Nights cards, though I did pick up a few packs fairly cheaply. I collected feverishly through about Fallen Empires and The Dark, and never again. Never played the game, either (well, maybe a few times just for fun, but certainly never competitively). Just loved the thrill of opening the packs, looking for cool stuff, cataloging them, trading them, and selling some of the really good ones. I still have a bunch of my cards someplace, though I’m sure I already sold off most of the good ones. I should hunt them up and see if they’re worth anything. I’ve completely gone over to WoW now, so no more card games for me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/26 "2010-06-10T19:28:58Z")
Every time you guys start a MTG thread, I want to go ahead and start playing again. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/27 "2010-06-10T22:41:00Z")
Hm, I just checked on prices for some of the cards I have or used to have, and it looks like none of them would be worth more than $14 now (the highest being Sol Ring). That makes me feel a lot better about some of the trades I made (like, I traded off my Force of Nature because I didn’t have enough forests to play it reliably). ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/28 "2010-06-11T02:59:27Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > If you have anything left and you’d prefer to help a current player get their hands on some juicy older cards for his Vintage interests than make a killer profit, then I encourage you to get in touch with me. Yeah. I doubt that my cards could rival Alpha, but I hope for the day when cards from Tempest and Urza’s Saga get up there. Then again, I’m glad I have tons of Counterspell . Blue has consistently gotten the shaft. But, that’s another topic, another site. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/29 "2010-06-11T03:12:50Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > That’s one of Magic’s greatest strengths and greatest weakeness… there are so many different ways it can be played. It can be played as pure 100% competition, as creative expression, as storytelling flavor, etc. Which gives a big tent for lots of different players, but also means that if people who approach the game different ways are playing each other it can end up being no fun for anyone. > > That’s why I stopped playing constructed magic. Limited lets me play 100% competitively to win, **but still feel like I can see new and different things every time** , and my creativity in deck building can really matter. > [@tr0psn4j](#): > > Every time you guys start a MTG thread, I want to go ahead and start playing again. ☹ Bolding in the first is mine. Two options here: Magic The Gathering Online had a few Vangaurd cards that were really cool :: There is one card that for 3 mana gives you the choice to play one of three randomly selected Instants or Sorceries\*. There is the other card, that for X mana, lets you copy a random creature with converted casting cost X and put it into play, from outside the game. \* \*\* \*\* - Oh, and you DON’T have to own the card. \*\* Yes, you get to play with cards you don’t own. If the card is legal in the format, you have a chance at getting it. \*\* Which sucks, if you get this [card](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=106427). And yes, it happened to me in one such game, and thus, I lost that game. Also, the Xbox 360 game is real “tabletop” Magic. It is not the crappy lame excuse for a disc Battlemage was for PS1. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/30 "2010-06-11T03:48:45Z")
If I was to play, I’d just jump into a Friday night draft at the local comic book store. The people their aren’t bad but they’re not top tier either. Then there’s MTGO, which I didn’t care for much, especially when they switched to the third version. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/31 "2010-06-11T12:56:33Z")
As nuts as I may be sometimes, I never got into Magic Online. Paying real money for virtual cards? Pass. I do like the XBox 360 game, though. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/32 "2010-06-11T13:52:29Z")
years back, when I Was into MTGO, it was worth it to me for these reasons : 1. 24-7 game play 2. Never lose a card, (and only need 4 of any card), or worry about better cards becoming unplayable (in terms of a marked cards) 3. Don’t have to pay for card sleeves. [I probably have 200 sleeves total, and probably have 7,5 - 10, cards.] 4.The Redemtion program. I got the entire 5th dawn physical paper set mailed to me doing this. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/33 "2010-06-11T18:35:37Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > years back, when I Was into MTGO, it was worth it to me for these reasons : > > 1. 24-7 game play > 2. Never lose a card, (and only need 4 of any card), or worry about better cards becoming unplayable (in terms of a marked cards) > 3. Don’t have to pay for card sleeves. [I probably have 200 sleeves total, and probably have 7,5 - 10, cards.] > 4.The Redemtion program. I got the entire 5th dawn physical paper set mailed to me doing this. 1. The cards are cheaper online. 2. You can draft 24/7. Try finding 7 other people with 3 packs each at odd hours. Even if I was to draft IRL at this time, I would probably give my cards away, since I have no intention of playing constructed, so I’m not too worried about the virtual cards thing. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/34 "2010-06-11T18:36:50Z")
Also, Steam has [this game](http://store.steampowered.com/app/49400/)coming out soon. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/35 "2010-06-11T19:09:51Z")
I’ve quit and gotten back into Magic almost as many times as I have comics. I currently just buy a pack every now and then to collect the cards, because I like the art and the fun of opening the packs. The people at the local comic shop take the game way too seriously. I miss the good old days of playing with just a few friends for fun, not spending hundreds of dollars to try and win the game in the first round or two. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/36 "2010-06-12T00:04:15Z")
I just read the OP, and it sounded like Charlie Brown’s teacher in my head. I didn’t understand a word of it. I think I’m good with that. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/37 "2010-06-12T00:17:38Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > I just read the OP, and it sounded like Charlie Brown’s teacher in my head. > > I didn’t understand a word of it. I think I’m good with that. Did you understand post #21? ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/38 "2010-06-12T00:51:42Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Did you understand post #21? Didn’t read it. I honestly don’t know what this is about. I read the OP and responded. I’m not insulting anyone (except maybe myself). I find it interesting that there are things out there that seem to be known/understood by the average person, but I remain clueless to what they are, their origin, etc. For this, do you need to have kids, is there a connection to a TV show, or something else? No one needs to explain it to me if that’s beneath the thread participants. I just feel so out of touch with pop culture, sometimes. I don’t think of myself as old, and then a thread like this pops up, and I just get mental static. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/39 "2010-06-12T01:03:48Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Didn’t read it. I honestly don’t know what this is about. I read the OP and responded. > > I’m not insulting anyone (except maybe myself). I find it interesting that there are things out there that seem to be known/understood by the average person, but I remain clueless to what they are, their origin, etc. > > For this, do you need to have kids, is there a connection to a TV show, or something else? No one needs to explain it to me if that’s beneath the thread participants. I just feel so out of touch with pop culture, sometimes. I don’t think of myself as old, and then a thread like this pops up, and I just get mental static. Read the [Wikipedia article about it](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_the_gathering). ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-magic/542445/40 "2010-06-12T01:08:09Z")
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