# Goodbye, Straight Dope

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 20, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899 "2018-08-20T02:31:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/121 "2018-08-21T01:23:32Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> This is possibly the most inaccurate representation of what President Obama actually said that keeps making the rounds of the internet among those uninterested in the truth

I think it ties with them saying that he encouraged non-citizens to vote.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/122 "2018-08-21T01:29:54Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I think this board’s intelligent, principled conservatives are a real plus. I don’t want an echo chamber, but I don’t want “hahaha lamestream media” **doorhinge** either.
> 
> When I joined, back in the stone age, there seemed to be more conservatives. Did they leave? No, they stayed and the Republican Party left them. You can read about them right here, saying, I used to reliably vote Republican but they’ve gone off the deep end. For example, **SenorBeef** was on the conservative side back then, and I think **Little Nemo** as well (apologies if I’ve misrepresented either of you). When you have Bill effin’ Kristol trolling the Republican president, you know the Republicans have lost it.
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> Anyway, my point is, you can take your echo chamber and stick it up whatever orifice octopuses have. It wouldn’t be an echo chamber if we had more than one sane party.
> 
> Now, not everything on this board is about politics. I don’t know what the OPs issue is – Cafe Society, the Game Room, and MPSIMS are all pretty apolitical. GQ, of course. There are many non-political threads in GD as well – no one said, “Trump is an artificial dumbass” in the thread about whether it’s good to have strong AI. The thread about landing a plane on the road didn’t branch off into whether roads should be government or privately owned.

Not sure about the rant against the Republicans. I think the OP was a libertarian.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/123 "2018-08-21T01:32:54Z")

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… who fled the SDMB when it was pointed out his poster boys for Libertarianism received the benefit of $70,000 of R&D effort performed by the very government he wants less of in our lives. Instead of using that “a-ha” moment to reflect upon what he thought, he used it as an excuse to flee to a safer space.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/124 "2018-08-21T02:02:11Z")

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Shut the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/125 "2018-08-21T02:04:34Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You think it’s healthy for message boards to lose participation?

Depends on the poster. In some cases, it’s addition by subtraction.

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**Author:** ![Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hypnagogic_jerk/32/4252_2.png) [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypnagogic_Jerk)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/126 "2018-08-21T02:05:14Z")

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> However, with a sig like this:  
> You, yourself, are probably not a fan of left-wing nor centrist politics in Canada, no?

That’s a joke, you know. The idea is that the Socred leader who’s speaking gets so caught up in their rhetoric that they don’t realize what happens when you “step forward” from the edge of a precipice. 😉 That’s actually a free translation by me, since the way I heard it was in French:

> [@](#):
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> _Le Parti libéral nous a amenés au bord du gouffre.  
> Avec le Crédit social, nous ferons un pas en avant._

Maybe my translation isn’t quite accurate enough.

I don’t know if it was actually said by some Socred leader (if so, it would probably be either Réal Caouette or Camil Samson). I assume they didn’t and it was probably made up to mock them, but who knows. I consider myself to be on the centre-left of the political spectrum and support social democratic policies, but I do disagree with identity politics on the left and it’s possible that I’ve become more conservative with age.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/127 "2018-08-21T02:17:45Z")

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> [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](#):
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> That’s a joke, you know. The idea is that the Socred leader who’s speaking gets so caught up in their rhetoric that they don’t realize what happens when you “step forward” from the edge of a precipice. 😉 That’s actually a free translation by me, since the way I heard it was in French:
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> Maybe my translation isn’t quite accurate enough.
> 
> I don’t know if it was actually said by some Socred leader (if so, it would probably be either Réal Caouette or Camil Samson). I assume they didn’t and it was probably made up to mock them, but who knows. I consider myself to be on the centre-left of the political spectrum and support social democratic policies, but I do disagree with identity politics on the left and it’s possible that I’ve become more conservative with age.

I thought it was funny, but I think you’d have to be Canadian (or familiar with Canadian politics) to know about the Social Credit Party of Canada and hence get it. 🙂

> **[Social Credit Party of Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_Party_of_Canada)**
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> The Social Credit Party of Canada (French: Parti Crédit social du Canada), colloquially known as the Socreds, was a populist political party in Canada that promoted social credit theories of monetary reform. It was the federal wing of the Canadian social credit movement.
> The Canadian social credit movement was largely an out-growth of the Alberta Social Credit Party, and the Social Credit Party of Canada was strongest in Alberta during this period. In 1932, Baptist evangelist William Aberhart us...

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/128 "2018-08-21T02:25:52Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Shut the fuck up.

Naw, I think I’m good. Appreciate the advice, though!

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/129 "2018-08-21T02:42:38Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I think…

[Narf!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqPkI_WqwHc)

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/130 "2018-08-21T02:44:14Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Naw, I think I’m good. Appreciate the advice, though!

Unless you two have some history, I would guess that was aimed at the whiny target of octopus.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/131 "2018-08-21T02:46:49Z")

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I didn’t think so, but there’s a 30 minute gap between my post and Asahi’s, so it wasn’t like we simulposted. I just assumed he was speaking to me, but you could be correct.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/132 "2018-08-21T02:55:01Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Depends on the poster. In some cases, it’s addition by subtraction.

That’s one reason why the iggy function exists. Haven’t used it here, but I have on other boards.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/133 "2018-08-21T03:35:46Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> [Narf!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqPkI_WqwHc)

Where do you find that stuff?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/134 "2018-08-21T03:37:08Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Depends on the poster. In some cases, it’s addition by subtraction.

When you are in the financial situation you are in running off posters is your job now?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/135 "2018-08-21T04:07:12Z")

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> [@Desert\_Nomad](#):
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> “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” -B. Obama
> 
> And with that, I’m gone…

Good riddance to bad rubbish. 🙂

No, seriously, anyone who will snip that quote like that has no fucking place in a forum dedicated to fighting ignorance, other than as an _example_ of said ignorance. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/136 "2018-08-21T04:37:42Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> When you are in the financial situation you are in running off posters is your job now?

You think idiot assholes like you are an attraction for the board? You’re the kind of dumbshit that drives off other posters. So yes, if you left the board would be a more attractive place. That’s what I mean by addition by subtraction.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/137 "2018-08-21T04:41:57Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You think idiot assholes like you are an attraction for the board? You’re the kind of dumbshit that drives off other posters. So yes, if you left the board would be a more attractive place. That’s what I mean by subtraction is addition.

You are more of plague on this board than I. You represent the moderation yet you come across as a senile and dishonest fool. Who’s more than borderline creepy with the stalkerish vibe you give as you go thread to thread harassing people.

You people were a vile and nasty bunch FAR earlier than I ever arrived. This board has been around since at least 1999? Hmm we can go through decades of Pit posts and show how you folks treat people.

Yet you persist in blaming someone who has the backbone to refute your lies as the aggressor. You really are a waste of DNA.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/138 "2018-08-21T04:53:58Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You are more of plague on this board than I. You represent the moderation yet you come across as a senile and dishonest fool. Who’s more than borderline creepy with the stalkerish vibe you give as you go thread to thread harassing people.
> 
> You people were a vile and nasty bunch FAR earlier than I ever arrived. This board has been around since at least 1999? Hmm we can go through decades of Pit posts and show how you folks treat people.
> 
> Yet you persist in blaming someone who has the backbone to refute your lies as the aggressor. You really are a waste of DNA.

My my, you really are having a meltdown today, aren’t you? 😃

As I’ve said before, stalking you in the Pit would be like stalking a cockroach. You’re so obsessed by the Pit (that you claim to despise) that it’s hard to avoid coming across one of your posts here.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/139 "2018-08-21T04:58:28Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> My my, you really are having a meltdown today, aren’t you? 😃

Maybe I am! :mad:

> [@](#):
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> As I’ve said before, stalking you in the Pit would be like stalking a cockroach. You’re so obsessed by the Pit (that you claim to despise) that it’s hard to avoid coming across one of your posts here.

Despise? Again not really. But disputing that is getting redundant even for me.🙂

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye-straight-dope/819899/140 "2018-08-21T05:03:47Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Yet you persist in blaming someone who has the backbone to refute your lies as the aggressor.

An invertebrate with a backbone? What will they think of next?

Stranger

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