# Goodbye **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 12, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907 "2014-07-12T02:02:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/41 "2014-07-12T09:38:34Z")
I now need to read up on who you are to see if I actually care about this. Gut feeling is that I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/42 "2014-07-12T09:39:58Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > That’s charitable, since if they’re trolls they don’t really mean it or they’re just posting garbage for da lulz. But they’re actually sincere. There are days when I think that the natural lifespan of the average human being is just too fucking long. If even half of those comments were sincere, then I firmly believe the next generations aren’t replacing us fast enough. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/43 "2014-07-12T09:45:59Z")
Looks like [he was banned three hours after writing his OP](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17540670&postcount=1). Talk about better safe than sorry! ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/44 "2014-07-12T10:02:49Z")
Sheesh. His initial posts seemed to be well written, a point of SOME kind in hand, and after three replies on most subjects, WE’RE OUT TO GET HIM! How? I do wish him well. I think he’s confused, maybe in a crazy part of life, and looking for some solstice of some kind. You don’t always get that here on SDMB, but we actually read what you write, and if we don’t we tell you. There’s at least that! And that’s… (sorry) honesty. He wasn’t honest, IMHO. It seemed like every OP had an agenda and was baiting us. Perhaps him and Diogenes can start their own forum?? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/45 "2014-07-12T10:17:35Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > I don’t have the time the slay that many trolls, and I think that’s the way most sane folks feel. You need to kill them with fire. Else they just regen. Sane ? Never heard of it. ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/46 "2014-07-12T10:29:47Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > … looking for some solstice of some kind. … Well, he just missed it.\* Never mind, there will be another one along soon enough. A case of the Over-enthusiastic Spellchecker Demon strikes again? 😃 - Actually, that _might_ not be true: it might be that there was an evil racist conspiracy to hide all the calendars from **Honesty**. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/47 "2014-07-12T10:34:10Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I do wish him well. I think he’s confused, maybe in a crazy part of life, and looking for some solstice of some kind. He could have found this three weeks ago, and spared us the logorrhea-strewn suicide-by-mod. ETA: Ninja’d! Rats. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/48 "2014-07-12T11:50:34Z")
I wish **Honesty** well. His perspective was pretty unique, and his passion was clear. He wasn’t perfect, but I think the board is a little poorer for his departure. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/49 "2014-07-12T12:04:03Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Actually, that’s 0.22%. You were only off by a factor of 100 this time–an improvement! If ever there were the perfect farewell for the poster in question… Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/50 "2014-07-12T12:12:15Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > …hit you on the ass on the way out. Or as they say in parts of the South, “Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/51 "2014-07-12T13:18:11Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I wish **Honesty** well. His perspective was pretty unique, and his passion was clear. You know who else had a unique perspective and lots of passion? Most of the crazy people in the world. > [@](#): > > He wasn’t perfect, but I think the board is a little poorer for his departure. Hard to imagine how. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/52 "2014-07-12T13:38:35Z")
> [@Honesty](#): > > Approximately 14 years ago, I started an account on SDMB as a 17 year old kid from Detroit… I ask that administrators to encourage the moderators to move forward to ban and/or to permanently suspend this username and/or IP address… > feel free to cut, excise, peel, and rearrange this post into easily digestable and irrecognizable soundbites to sharpen your sarcasm… > It was a great and memorable 14 years but, like most great things, it is time for me to move on. Thank you, good luck, and best wishes to you all in your future endeavors. > > - Honesty Hey, I was just getting to know you!! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/53 "2014-07-12T13:55:59Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Hard to imagine how. It’s a matter of opinion, but I think he had an interesting point of view, even when we disagreed. Just like plenty of other posters with unusual points of view who can be abrasive (_cough_ **Der Trihs** , _cough_). I’m glad he brought up that discussion about Coates’ article about reparations, for example. But then I’m an open-arms, welcoming type. I even welcome those on the opposite side of the spectrum, like **Shodan** and my blood-brother **Terr**. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/54 "2014-07-12T13:58:00Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Wait a minute, there are white people on this Board? I hear there are also Jews here! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/55 "2014-07-12T13:58:49Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Hey, I was just getting to know you!! Dodged a bullet there. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/56 "2014-07-12T14:39:45Z")
kthxbye. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/57 "2014-07-12T14:47:32Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’m a decent (and incidentally white) person who doesn’t wish Honesty well _and_ recognizes that the U.S. is severely racist, so… we cool? What’s weird to me, I was born in the South (in the 50s) and raised there. I later lived all over the country and the world due to being in the Army for over 20 years, but I would frequently return to the South for family functions and various other things throughout my life and after the Army I’ve lived exclusively in the South. I guess growing up, I heard more than enough “real” racism that I know it when I see it. Owners at small businesses where I had part time jobs who would quite openly tell me, “if a nigger ever comes in with an application, take it and throw it away once they leave the store.” This was years after such activity was prohibited by Federal law. And that’s honestly not close to the most egregious thing I’ve heard. I think America is far less racist today than it was when I was a kid, but I think some level of prejudice against anyone different from ourselves is going to be with us for a really long time, generations to come. But that being said, the SDMB in general is actually very much not-racist. Of all the places to find racism, this isn’t really the best place. We have many posters over the years who have expressed racist ideas–and every single time I remember it happening it became a beatdown, with the masses uniting to denounce/bash the person for post after post and page after page. You can express racist ideas here–and it will make you extremely unpopular. So to me it’s shocking that **Honesty** says he was little exposed to racism in his personal life growing up, but the virulent racism that runs rampant here forced him to become an Internet troll dead set on pissing off an entire message board. It’s like we’ve lived in different countries and post on a very different message board. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/58 "2014-07-12T15:40:22Z")
Oh, I have no problem recognizing that the U.S. has made considerable strides since the 1950s, or even the 1980s, but then some story about a Justice of the Peace who wouldn’t issue a marriage license to a mixed-race couple comes up as a stark reminder. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/59 "2014-07-12T15:43:06Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Oh, I have no problem recognizing that the U.S. has made considerable strides since the 1950s, or even the 1980s, but then some story about a Justice of the Peace who wouldn’t issue a marriage license to a mixed-race couple comes up as a stark reminder. Agreed, but my key point is modern racism is not well received here. For every person who might defend that JP or support various racist policies, on this forum there are usually 100 people who oppose it and 25 who oppose it enough to pile onto the guy spouting the racist stuff. it makes the SDMB a strange place to be the target of an “anti-racism” crusade. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907/60 "2014-07-12T15:45:07Z")
Welp, that’s too bad. Am I the only one who learned in this thread that **Honesty** is black? Or gay? I agree with Martin Hyde- we get some racist bullshit on this board, but from the limited amount of time I can spend here it doesn’t seem to me like it gets accepted at all, and those posters AFAICT end up with reputations as the biggest morons on the board. I guess I haven’t followed most of the threads **Honesty** was in, but I can’t see why he thinks this, of all places, is especially racist. I’ve been reading the biography of Andrew Jackson lately, and Holy Shit!!1!1! were people unabashedly, unselfconsciously racist in those days. Yah, everyone knows how racist this country was in the past, but if you’re ignorant of history like I am and take a look at the source material, it is still pretty surprising. If we compare Jackson to Hitler wrt his treatment of the Indians, I guess we can say that Jackson didn’t torture the Indians before he killed them, would tolerate their further existence once they’d been driven out of the land he coveted, and didn’t go on a career-defining propaganda campaign against them. He seemed motivated by making America strong vs. its international rivals, not any particular hatred against the Indians, but _geez_, the fact that he was a genocidaire does not seem to have weighed on his conscience at all, and his opinion of blacks and Indians as inferior did not seem to ignite any internal debate at all. I mean, holy fucking smurfberries, Batman, the entire country, from top to bottom, was utterly, unselfreflectingly racist! Here, I think it is just a few select posters, and they get disrespected. **Honesty** didn’t get pitted like **adaher** because, ISTM, he wasn’t regarded as a complete moron. (no offense **adaher** , stick around and be wrong some more) Honesty even changed my mind at least once that I remember. I don’t see why **Honesty** felt this way about the SDMB, but again, I didn’t follow him very closely. Ah well. I hope his career is successful and that he finds a nice boyfriend that makes him feel secure and good about himself and his place in the world. So long, bud. Here’s one person who is cool with black people, and gays. Whatever. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodbye/692907.md?page=4)