# Goodnight, Rhoda - Valerie Harper dies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 30, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodnight-rhoda-valerie-harper-dies/839504 "2019-08-30T23:57:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodnight-rhoda-valerie-harper-dies/839504/41 "2019-09-04T17:43:05Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > (West had previously been in the pilot for _ **Alexander the Great** _, opposite William Shatner.) Oh man, that would have been fantastic! The competing egos, the competing over-acting… It would have been a classic. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodnight-rhoda-valerie-harper-dies/839504/42 "2019-09-04T18:18:33Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Oh man, that would have been fantastic! The competing egos, the competing over-acting… It would have been a classic. I believe the pilot is on YouTube. It’s a hoot and a holler. I laugh out loud every time West addresses Shatner as “M’lord.” Oddly enough, it was the produced by the same people who brought \*\*\*Combat! \*\*\*to the small sceen. Whatever could they have been thinking? :smack: “_Alexan-DER! Alexan-DER!_” ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodnight-rhoda-valerie-harper-dies/839504/43 "2019-09-04T18:49:17Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > EVERY time I’m reminded of Ed Asner, I’m shocked he’s still alive. Anyway, RIP Valerie. Watching a couple of MTM episodes as part of my memorial tribute when Penny Marshall died, I was reflecting on this too. Mary, gone. Penny, gone. Ed, still with us. You wouldn’t have foreseen that in 1976. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodnight-rhoda-valerie-harper-dies/839504/44 "2019-09-04T18:50:06Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > (West had previously been in the pilot for _ **Alexander the Great** _, opposite William Shatner.) > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Oh man, that would have been fantastic! The competing egos, the competing over-acting… It would have been a classic. West and Shatner were recently reunited in the animated DC movie _Batman vs. Two-Face_. West was the voice of Bruce Wayne/Batman, and Shatner played Harvey Dent/Two-Face. Dent was even drawn to appear like Shatner did in 1966. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodnight-rhoda-valerie-harper-dies/839504/45 "2019-09-05T22:55:25Z")
I was trying to remember who played Ted’s father “Robert” on _ **MTM** _. Turns out it was Liam Dunn, probably best known as “The Reverend ‘Are We Just Jerking Off?’ Johnson” in _ **Blazing Saddles** _. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodnight-rhoda-valerie-harper-dies/839504/46 "2019-09-05T23:00:11Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > I thought Georgia Engel (Georgette Franklin Baxter) was still alive but she died a few months ago. She was a Christian Scientist and the COD is unknown because she never went to a Doctor when she got sick (per wiki). For those who don’t know, she was also Evelyn Harper’s bisexual lover in a couple of episodes of _ **Two and a Half Men** _. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodnight-rhoda-valerie-harper-dies/839504/47 "2019-09-06T00:35:32Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > For those who don’t know, she was also Evelyn Harper’s bisexual lover in a couple of episodes of _ **Two and a Half Men** _. She was also the mother of Amy, Robert’s wife, in _Everybody Loves Raymond_. And she also married Exidor, Mork’s eccentric friend, on _Mork and Mindy_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goodnight-rhoda-valerie-harper-dies/839504.md?page=2)